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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Congratulations, and welcome to being dead wrong.

    I have a serious problem with the death penalty in general, and I would not respond to the accusations against the service member in that way.
    So, I'm wrong because my comments don't apply to you?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: First Woman Executed in the U.S. in Five Years

    I'm not saying more guns=more crime, I'm saying less guns=less crime. I really don't care about the right to bear arms though, I don't plan on ever putting myself in a situation where I need a gun or where I am met by somebody with a gun. As long as I'm not getting shot personally I'm fine, still I wouldn't mind seeing stricter gun control. Why do people need M-16s and AK-47s??
    I use a lot of satire and sarcasm so keep that in mind when reading my posts.

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    Re: First Woman Executed in the U.S. in Five Years

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I'm not saying more guns=more crime, I'm saying less guns=less crime. I really don't care about the right to bear arms though, I don't plan on ever putting myself in a situation where I need a gun or where I am met by somebody with a gun. As long as I'm not getting shot personally I'm fine, still I wouldn't mind seeing stricter gun control. Why do people need M-16s and AK-47s??
    Because they want it.

    Those weapons are rarely used in crime anyway, so restricting them only hurts recreational shooters.
    I really hate when people think we should ban stuff based on need.

    How about we start with stuff you don't need?
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    She's dead.....

    What bothers me even more lately is that the mental health system is so broken and that the criminal justice system has decided to wash its hands of violent mentally ill offenders.

    There are many severely mentally disturbed people who are a very clear danger to society who are getting released from jail to mental treatment and the mental health system is kicking them back to the streets a few days later with a perscription and a case worker's phone number.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, I'm wrong because my comments don't apply to you?
    Yes, because you employed a sweeping generalization.

    All you need to prove one of those wrong is a single example to the contrary; everything else is icing on the cake.


    TED,
    An example to the contrary, and probably not the only one.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: First Woman Executed in the U.S. in Five Years

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Her IQ was so low she almost legally qualified for retardation.
    So if we up the limit, then what do we do with the next person who has an IQ almost low enough to be almost low enough to be retarded?


    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is my problem with the death penalty. Its actually not cheaper by a long shot. The cost of all the court preceding, supplied lawyers to the defendant, who often can't afford their own, and the huge amount of scrutiny that goes into deciding on a death penalty is enormous. Plus, most death row inmates sit on death years for years if not decades anyway.
    It's not cheaper because we give people charged with capitol offenses all sorts of special hearings and appeals. It's a problem of our own making. Moreover, that doesn't count the cost of the additional murders that would occur without the death penalty. That far outweighs the additional upfront cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    he only deterrent to crime I could see is strict gun control but of course we shall have none of that.
    The death penalty IS a deterrent.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/us/18deter.html

    For the first time in a generation, the question of whether the death penalty deters murders has captured the attention of scholars in law and economics, setting off an intense new debate about one of the central justifications for capital punishment.

    According to roughly a dozen recent studies, executions save lives. For each inmate put to death, the studies say, 3 to 18 murders are prevented.

    The effect is most pronounced, according to some studies, in Texas and other states that execute condemned inmates relatively often and relatively quickly.
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    why is America's crime rate so high then? I mean other countries with strict gun control have a much lower crime rate..Sure it doesn't technically deter crime but it would certainly lower the murder and crime rate.
    If we're pretending that correlation equals causation, Mexico has very strict gun control. That's certainly worked out well for them.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I'm saying that it's not always Christian countries that have a death penalty in place.
    No, just religious ones, or fascist states... though it's hard to tell the difference sometimes.

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    Re: First Woman Executed in the U.S. in Five Years

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I'm not trying to create excuses, retarded or not I wouldn't support the execution. The lady should have just rotted behind bars. The only deterrent to crime I could see is strict gun control but of course we shall have none of that.
    Care to show us some examples of where that is true?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: First Woman Executed in the U.S. in Five Years

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    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    No, just religious ones, or fascist states... though it's hard to tell the difference sometimes.
    Reading about this case, it appears to me, the woman had anti social behavior disorder(Psychopathy).
    There is no cure for that, there is no reason to keep a person who is dangerous to others around like that.
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