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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    (not discussing her mental-status)
    I don't support the death penalty for that nature of murder, anyway (meaning 1 person buys the death of another - or plots otherwise - and had accomplices)

    The death penalty should be reserved for serial killers on a large scale - plain and simple.

    And we shouldn't be convicting those who are not able to discern right from wrong. . . which includes the officially insane as well as the mentally handicapped, etc.
    Why?
    Those people are a danger to all those around them, there is no compelling reason to keep them alive.
    It's a total waste of resources.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    If this were a 25 y/o service member, who had killed two Afgahnis/Iraqis/whoever the people that are so appaled by this woman's execution would be cheering for the death penalty; probably without even so much as a trial.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Don't see why it matters if she had an IQ of 50 or 150, or that she was a woman. State executions are old world thinking and they make every taxpayer an accessory, including those who don't support the death penalty. The government should not have the power to snuff out the lives of its people, no matter how beyond reproach they may be. It always seems to be the predominantly Christian states that cannot look beyond the eye for an eye mentality, and totally ignore the love and virtues of Jesus.

    Total hypocrisy.
    Always? Really? Do you seriously want to go down this road?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Always? Really? Do you seriously want to go down this road?
    Ah so you're saying we're in the same group as Saudi Arabi, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Nigeria? Do go on.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah so you're saying we're in the same group as Saudi Arabi, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Nigeria? Do go on.
    No, I'm saying that it's not always Christian countries that have a death penalty in place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    She controlled the whole situation in regards to the murder.

    She bought the gun, she enticed the men to kill her husband and stepson, she offered her 16 year old daughter for sex, she unlocked the door and put away the family dog, to allow the men to commit the murder.
    She was the person, other than the father and stepson, who knew about the life insurance policy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I don't like the death penalty, and think it should be abolished but while it is law, she shouldn't get any special treatment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Don't see why it matters if she had an IQ of 50 or 150, or that she was a woman. State executions are old world thinking and they make every taxpayer an accessory, including those who don't support the death penalty. The government should not have the power to snuff out the lives of its people, no matter how beyond reproach they may be. It always seems to be the predominantly Christian states that cannot look beyond the eye for an eye mentality, and totally ignore the love and virtues of Jesus.

    Total hypocrisy.
    This.

    I'm against capital punishment for both moral and practical reasons.

    Practically speaking, we as a species are physically incapable of doing anything perfectly.

    As such, it is morally beyond us to execute anybody while simultaneously outlawing murder.

    When you execute someone for a crime they did not commit, that is murder.

    You can't get around that simple fact or call it "collateral damage" (as I've seen and heard others do) without condoning murder.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I'm saying that it's not always Christian countries that have a death penalty in place.
    Ah so what you're saying is that you're in the same group as Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Cuba and Somalia.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If this were a 25 y/o service member, who had killed two Afgahnis/Iraqis/whoever the people that are so appaled by this woman's execution would be cheering for the death penalty; probably without even so much as a trial.
    Congratulations, and welcome to being dead wrong.

    I have a serious problem with the death penalty in general, and I would not respond to the accusations against the service member in that way.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    She's not borderline retarded as they define it, she's above that. The fact that she's just 2 points over the line doesn't mean that she should be spared - there's always going to be someone who's just over the line.

    The facts of the case indicate that she had the mental capacity necessary to commit a capital offense. The fact that she's a woman, a 41 year old grandmother, or on the lower side of intelligence doesn't change that.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah so what you're saying is that you're in the same group as Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Cuba and Somalia.
    No, that's what you're saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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