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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Retarded,borderline or almost retarded has nothing to do with the fact she had her stepson and husband murdered.Its just another excuse or loop hole that scumbag sympathizers use to try to help scumbags weasel out of getting their punishment while ****ting on the victims of these scum.
    Well, the hyperpartisan screeching started up quickly...
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    The OP tries to make the case that a "grandmother" with an IQ of 70 is incapable of murder - which is untrue. Sounds like justice was carried out expeditiously, which is a good thing.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    (not discussing her mental-status)
    I don't support the death penalty for that nature of murder, anyway (meaning 1 person buys the death of another - or plots otherwise - and had accomplices)

    The death penalty should be reserved for serial killers on a large scale - plain and simple.

    And we shouldn't be convicting those who are not able to discern right from wrong. . . which includes the officially insane as well as the mentally handicapped, etc.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, the hyperpartisan screeching started up quickly...
    I call it as I see it. This stupid people shouldn't get the death penalty or people who claim to be insane shouldn't get the death penalty is just another tool for the scumbag sympathizers to help scumbags weasel out of their punishment. A low IQ does not make someone's evil deed any less or more evil than someone with a high IQ who did the same thing.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    I don't like the death penalty, and think it should be abolished but while it is law, she shouldn't get any special treatment.
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    Re: First Woman Executed in the U.S. in Five Years

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is my problem with the death penalty. Its actually not cheaper by a long shot. The cost of all the court preceding, supplied lawyers to the defendant, who often can't afford their own, and the huge amount of scrutiny that goes into deciding on a death penalty is enormous. Plus, most death row inmates sit on death years for years if not decades anyway.
    Do you have statistics to back that up? I'm not saying your wrong I'm just wondering. Personally I think the death penalty should only be viable if there is no real room for doubt, that might eliminate some of the scrutiny and piles and piles of court proceedings. Then again probably not.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution - Yahoo! Canada News



    I'm curious to find out the kind of argument somebody needs to come up with to prove that a person with an IQ slightly higher than the require level for retardation is capable of masterminding murders. Now admittedly, I have never dealt with somebody who is borderline mentally retarded - excuse me, developmentally disabled - but I do have friends with relatives who have mild disabilities and yet require constant care taking. How different was this woman from them?



    IQ - Mental retardation



    On a last note, I believe the death penalty if it can't be abolished should be reserved for the most HEINOUS of crimes where there is no doubt that the person knew exactly what they were doing. The death penalty as a punishment seems useless. I punish my daughter by taking her toys away for a few hours. Not taking her toys away for good. The death penalty in this case seems like vengeance.
    Apparently you have a border line understanding of what premeditated murder is and a border line comprehension of the facts.

    The marshmallow milk toast limp wrested brain dead protesters like the disgraceful hypocrite Jessie Jackson are the self same type of idiots that get people like John Albert Gardner, 31, a convicted sex offender, out of jail so they can kill innocent children like 14-year-old Amber Dubois, and the beautiful young lady who now has a new law named in her memory 17 year old Chelsea King.

    So lame do gooders need to keep their BORDER LINE CRAZY Liberal thoughts and ideas to your self before they other people killed because they are pantie waists.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    I'll reserve my sympathy for the husband Julian Clifton Lewis, Jr. and her stepson, Charles J. Lewis.
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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Low IQ != No Understanding of Morals

    Just because she's stupid doesn't mean she doesn't understand that killing people and forcing your daughter to have sex is against the law. I haven't looked into this much, but from what I understand she was mentally capable of having a relationship, getting married, having a family and taking care of them, and being able to live a normal life without need of supervision. Even if she lacks any kind of morals she still has the intelligence to know that what she did was illegal. This, I would argue, is enough to say that she is viable for the death penalty.

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    Re: Protesters condemn US grandmother's execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    (not discussing her mental-status)
    I don't support the death penalty for that nature of murder, anyway (meaning 1 person buys the death of another - or plots otherwise - and had accomplices)

    The death penalty should be reserved for serial killers on a large scale - plain and simple.

    And we shouldn't be convicting those who are not able to discern right from wrong. . . which includes the officially insane as well as the mentally handicapped, etc.
    I had a psychology prof tell me one time than even the most insane or disabled person makes decisions. Society sets the rules for what is right or wrong. The insane/disabled person just has a different view or doesn’t understand that rule. The person still made a decision. What also stuck with me is that he did not believe in innocent by reason of insanity or innocent by reason of retardation. He believed a person could be guilty and insane. It is up to society to determine the punishment.

    In this case, IMO justice was served.
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