"Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run
Mace Windu: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive.
lol - "giddy abandon"
Ok - that one made me spew coffee out me nose!
A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
What's that? You say Everyone knows the the Sun comes up in the east every morning and has since the beginning of time.
It is not my intention to be little anyone but educate people to the reality of nature and the reality of the nature of the human.
Truth is the Sun only appears to rise in the east, when in fact the Sun did nothing but remain motionless and as our earth turns we see what looks like tha sune not only comes up but that it tracks across the sky all day until it appears to go down, when in fact the Earth is turning giving us the illusion of the Sun being in motion. It's a matter of perspective.
Now from your perspective it appears the death penalty has NO deterrent affect on murders.
To understand why this is wrong you must first compare the threat of punishing a child for doing something that you have warned them about over, and over again but, we never follow through on the threat.
What message does the child get? They learn that you are all talk and there are no consequences to their actions.
The same is now true of people who commit murder. They see people on death row for many years playing the system and if by some slim chance they are finally put to death it's no worse than taking an ambien pill and peacefully going to sleep.
That doesn't hurt.
But now let's look at the death penalty when it worked and people feared the scales of justice.
When you were found guilty of a Capital Crime the Judge would say something like: You will be removed from this Court and be delivered to the place of execution were at Sunrise tomorrow you will be hanged by the neck until you are dead.
Now Brothers and Sisters that is a deterrent. Sadly we have become too soft on criminals.
Works for me!
In the words of Ben Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence: "We must hang together or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
But to that I say: "Let us band together to hang the wicked or they shall one day live to kill again."
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Welll.. the right to arms is all about people always having access to an effective means to kill other people, because sometimes it is necessary for people to do that.Why do people need M-16s and AK-47s??
Given that, why -not- have an M16?
I find it interesting that she got the needle, while the men who actually committed the murders got off with life in prison.
If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Historically, an IQ of 70 has been considered the threshold for mental retardation.
"Borderline intellectual functioning" is defined as an IQ between 84 and 70 (which would probably describe 85% of the prison population), but anything below 70 is indisputably "mentally retarded".
This woman tested at 69, so I'm not sure why people keep talking about her being "borderline retarded", or "almost retarded", or whatever.
She is (was) mentally retarded.
The fact that she's not as profoundly mentally retarded as some other people does not make this any less true.
Whether this should have disqualified her from the death penalty is a whole different debate, but I would like it if we could at least be honest about the facts: she was mentally retarded.
That does not mean she was good. Mentally retarded people can be bad, too.
It may or may not mean that she wasn't fully cognizant of the consequences of her actions.
There is a reason we don't execute children, or punish them as adults.
It's because they don't entirely have the capacity to understand the consequences of their actions.
Personally, I doubt this woman did, either.
Her understanding of the world, and of right and wrong, was probably pretty childlike.
Is her death a great loss?
Not really. The death of her two victims- one of them a united States soldier- is a greater loss. I'd advocate killing her if it would bring them back.
But since it won't, I don't see much point in killing her, except to make bereaved family members of the victims feel better.
And since neither of her co-conspirators were or will be put to death, I can't see how killing her will really offer the family any closure in this matter.
That's my feeling on it.
I've known people with IQs in the same range as this woman; as adults, they can appear- on short acquaintance- almost normal. They can also be manipulative. They can use sexuality to their advantage. None of this means, however, that they are capable of functioning cognitively as adults.
I don't really care that she's dead, but I think we could've just as well allowed her to serve out a life sentence, and perhaps executed one of the gunmen instead, if blood atonement was really necessary.
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Teresa Lewis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaCognitive testing showed a Full Scale IQ of 72. Verbal IQ was 70, and Performance IQ was 79.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.