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    GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters



    Quote Originally Posted by AP
    By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS (AP) – 40 minutes ago

    STERLING, Va. — Pushing toward big gains on Nov. 2, House Republicans promised to end a slew of Democratic policies and restore Americans' trust in government as they rolled out a campaign manifesto designed to show they're listening to an angry public and are focused on creating jobs.

    "The land of opportunity has become the land of shrinking prosperity ... Our government has failed us," Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California declared. "We will take back our country. We will restore for a better future. This is our pledge to you."

    At a hardware store in suburban Washington, senior House Republicans in shirt sleeves showed off the 21-page document they say would guide them should they gain a majority of seats in the midterm balloting five weeks away.

    The "Pledge to America" was filled with familiar proposals to slash taxes and spending and cut down on government regulation, as well as repeal President Barack Obama's health care law and end his stimulus program. In a show of unity, Senate Republicans and Haley Barbour, chairman of the Republican Governors Association, issued strong statements of support.

    The unveiling capped a private debate among Republicans that had pitted those who favored making an agenda public against others who argued it would merely open the party's candidates to criticism in a campaign that has been tilting their way.
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    While long, (8000 words), familiar and with obvious holes - this is a first step of "getting back to basics" by the GOP they're selling to voters. Critics on the Right however, are seeing it as watered down beltway business as usual.

    Redstate says:

    "At a time when America needs a bold, simple, fresh plan for putting America on the path to fiscal and constitutional sanity - we get instead an almost 8000 word term paper of inside-the-beltway regurgitation that lacks the one thing the American people seem to be dying to have… actual leadership. Harsh? Hardly."
    I give credit to the GOP for seeing the writing on the wall left by the Tea Party: get back to basics or else. The GOP isn't jumping into that pool head first... they're wading in and they should. A vast swing to the right with some "bold" plan espousing cutting Social Security, Medicare and the Dept. of Ed. is a sure fire loser. The missing parts like a pledge to cut earmarks, to pass term limits, or to cut corporate tax to the levels the rest of the world uses is missing. Republicans need to understand however, they can't wade in the pool forever. This is a nice first step but it needs some concrete follow up and not on November 3rd --- sooner. We don't need a bold "let's change Washington into Conservative Utopia" - that's what Obama campaigned with a "Progressive Utopia" and we all know that hope and change went down the toilet quick.

    Pledge to America - full text.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    until, like all parties, they are actually in power. Then, . . . what?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Love it.. expose their own hypocrisy.. hope the Dems exploit this.
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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    until, like all parties, they are actually in power. Then, . . . what?
    Quite right - and normally I'd say we have a two party system so it's a choice between two different types of bad. However, the emerging tea party is just as adamant about kicking out Republicans who play ball, grow government and spend spend spend as they are about Democrats. If the Tea Party has longevity, we actually may have a Republican party that is forced to change - not today, not tomorrow but over the next 3-5 elections. That may just slow the Dem GOP patty cake fest down and put people in office who back up their words with actions.

    But I appreciate the cynacism. Where was it in 2010? Cheering Obama?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Remix and generalized pap, SSDD, where are jobs?, nothing about banning earmarks!

    The late Sam Francis identified the two political parties of America as the evil party and the stupid party, often switching labels. Today, with this "new" contract they are stupid.
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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    I'm currently in the process of reading the GOP Plan, and so far I haven't found anything of real substance that goes contrary to what the Washington Post has already summarized herein. To that, Ockham is correct. The GOP is treading very lightly here. From what I've read of it and based on the summary article, there's really nothing groundbreaking in this 21-page pledge that either hasn't already been attempted and shown it's not that easy to fully implement, i.e., not adding attachments to bills before a vote, or IMO that's really going to change things for the better, i.e., repealing health care reform.

    Many of the things the GOP are upset about, i.e., spending, TARP, stimulus, will eventually stop on its own, i.e., stimulus spending is only a 2-year program (2009-2011), TARP will end fully once the banks have all stabalized and repaid (most if not all of) their loans (and several large banks already have), and unemployment benefits are limited and have expiration periods anyway. So, when you get down to it there's really nothing along the lines of limiting government spending/fiscal responsibility that the GOP has to "tackle" that won't end on its own in short order. The small business tax issue is a different story, but even here you have to wade through the GOP double-talk.

    On the one hand they want to give more tax cuts/credits/deductions to small businesses, but that's what the Obama Administration is doing right now atleast in the short-term. Long-term might be a different story (i.e., taxes under health care legistlation), but no one really knows exactly how this will play out. However, if I understand health care reform legislation correctly, most small businesses would be exempt from paying any new taxes under healthcare reform and few would see a tax increase. Only large corporations would be affected where higher taxes under HCR legislation is concerned and even then they would only pay a tax if they don't provide health insurance coverage to their employees.

    I'll keep reading, but so far I really don't see anything Earth-shattering in this new "Contract w/America". Good ideas, but I really don't see anything new that either hasn't already been promised by both parties and said promises have been broken or aren't currently attempting to fully implemented (i.e., posting bills online or waitng 72-yrs before voting on same).
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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    This says it all:


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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Yep, sokpupet...that about says it all right there.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Quite right - and normally I'd say we have a two party system so it's a choice between two different types of bad. However, the emerging tea party is just as adamant about kicking out Republicans who play ball, grow government and spend spend spend as they are about Democrats. If the Tea Party has longevity, we actually may have a Republican party that is forced to change - not today, not tomorrow but over the next 3-5 elections. That may just slow the Dem GOP patty cake fest down and put people in office who back up their words with actions.

    But I appreciate the cynacism. Where was it in 2010? Cheering Obama?
    I don't really believe that. Frankly they've had a lot of opportunity to be mad and throw people out, but haven't until now. Makes one wonder why now as there is nothing new here. Second, republicans are more the focus, and are simply rebranding republicans and not democrats. So, it is more part of the republican party than the democrat party. I think this will hurt republicans in the long run, but it is hardly equal distain among the tea party members.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    Remix and generalized pap, SSDD, where are jobs?, nothing about banning earmarks!

    The late Sam Francis identified the two political parties of America as the evil party and the stupid party, often switching labels. Today, with this "new" contract they are stupid.
    Stupid and Evil Political Parties - Vox


    Yeah, the Dems have done a great job, so far. Right?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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