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GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

Boo Radley said:
Been there; done that. How did it go once they were in charge?
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Can you say, "4% unemployment"? The Dems took over in 2007. When did the recession get cranked up? How much good has the Democrats's, "plan", to make everything better worked? How many jobs have been killed and how many billions in tax dollars have been wasted to bail out the unions? Don't tell me that you actually believe that a 18% increase in the capital gains tax is going to help small businesses grow.
 
Boo Radley said:
Been there; done that. How did it go once they were in charge?
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But they really, really promise they'll be different this time....LOL...:2rofll:



said Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis. "It's a contrast to the way we conducted ourselves a decade ago. We spent too much money. We lost our way."
 
Barbbtx said:
Some thought they should just let the Dems hang themselves.
However, being known as the party of NO doesn't sound so good. They really needed to get their ideas out there and so far I think the Pledge is excellent. They kept social issues out except for a promise to permanently ban all federal funding of abortions which I think polls showed 70% of Americans would be for that. The real focus is on jobs and the economy from the summary I've seen.

It just feels good to think "finally, someone is listening! thank you tea party!"
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I'm starting to believe that being labeled the party of no, is a badge of honor. Obviously, the fewer decisions that Congress makes, the fewer things they can **** up for the private sector.
 
With tax cuts preserved, "common sense exceptions" that cover large chunks of discretionary spending, and no specified mandatory spending reforms, it is difficult to determine that the plan would lead to lower deficits than those that will result under current policy. Furthermore, there was no CBO score to accompany the plan (perhaps the absence of such a score was purposeful?). Therefore, it is difficult to conclude that the plan offers credible fiscal consolidation.
 
apdst said:
Pray-tell, how could the Dems possibly exploit this? What are they going to do, tell us about all the great things they've done since they took over?
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They've already started on MSNBC.
"They never said what they will cut. It's just the same old talking points. How will they impliment it. That will just add to the deficit. Blah blah blah
 
Barbbtx said:
They've already started on MSNBC.
"They never said what they will cut. It's just the same old talking points. How will they impliment it. That will just add to the deficit. Blah blah blah
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um......what will they cut, specifically? seems to me the "pledge" is just recycled bull****.
 
apdst said:
Pray-tell, how could the Dems possibly exploit this? What are they going to do, tell us about all the great things they've done since they took over?
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I could not agree with you more. I just heard Dick Morris who said, and I paraphrase " What are the Democrats going to say, that they are the party who past a bunch of Bills the Majority of Americans opposed? Cap and Tax, Obama I don't really care about your Health Kill Granny plan, the waste of the "Cash for Clunkers debacle and more.

And he was right and the polls reflect the truth the Dims (no spell error) are DIMMER than usual and they are going to be relegated to the minority vote on all committees in the Senate and House and it couldn't happen to a more anti-American bunch of Obamaniacs.

The only thing we have to fear is everything Obama stands for
 
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Barbbtx said:
Making the tax cuts permanent. There's other tax breaks too. Plus the big one, getting the HC bill off their backs.
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And tax cuts are magic? All problems will go away, whihc is why we have no problems right now with the tax cuts in place, right?
 
donsutherland1 said:
With tax cuts preserved, "common sense exceptions" that cover large chunks of discretionary spending, and no specified mandatory spending reforms, it is difficult to determine that the plan would lead to lower deficits than those that will result under current policy. Furthermore, there was no CBO score to accompany the plan (perhaps the absence of such a score was purposeful?). Therefore, it is difficult to conclude that the plan offers credible fiscal consolidation.
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If the government takes in $1 billion in tax revenue, then, "common sense", dictates that it can't spend $10 billion. It ain't rocket science. Hoepfully that's what this pledge is about.

It's gotta be better than what have going, now.
 
apdst said:
I'm starting to believe that being labeled the party of no, is a badge of honor. Obviously, the fewer decisions that Congress makes, the fewer things they can **** up for the private sector.
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I agree. I was yelling Hell No! I think they did a pretty good job being the party of no. However, they do have ideas and I don't see anything wrong with them getting some of them out there now.
 
but, they've pledged before. How did that end?
 
apdst said:
If the government takes in $1 billion in tax revenue, then, "common sense", dictates that it can't spend $10 billion. It ain't rocket science. Hoepfully that's what this pledge is about.

It's gotta be better than what have going, now.
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With specifics not provided, one can't conclude that the spending would be reduced to match tax revenue. Indeed, the "common sense exceptions" that take a large amount of discretionary spending off the table from possible reductions and the absence of mandatory spending reforms implies that there are no concrete ideas to reduce the spending to the extent necessary to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal path.
 
Barbbtx said:
By Obama or Michelle?
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at some point you will have to start posting some facts, barbie, else you will never be taken seriously. or at least some informed opinions.
 
Boo Radley said:
And tax cuts are magic? All problems will go away, whihc is why we have no problems right now with the tax cuts in place, right?
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It's the uncertainty. I just heard they will not be voting on the Bush tax cuts until after the election. If businesses knew they were going to be made permanent it would make a huge difference. And if something was done about the new costs to small businesses in the health care bill, they'd have some sense of security to invest. As it is, they have no idea what's going to happen.
 
donsutherland1 said:
With specifics not provided, one can't conclude that the spending would be reduced to match tax revenue. Indeed, the "common sense exceptions" that take a large amount of discretionary spending off the table from possible reductions and the absence of mandatory spending reforms implies that there are no concrete ideas to reduce the spending to the extent necessary to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal path.
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Well, the first step in putting the country on a substainable fiscal path, is to stop creating uncertainty within the private sector, which in turn kills jobs and growth, which means less tax revenue.

The drilling moratoirum didn't do jack **** to create more tax revenue; so, it's not just about cutting spending. It's also about creating a business friendly environment, so that businesses can grow, earn more revenue, hire more employees, pay them above average salaries, because the company is seeing above average profits, thereby creating more tax revenue.

Killing domestic oilfield operations, then turning around and loaning billions to overseas companies to drill for oil, that we will buy from them, and expecting our economy not to take a hit from that, is one of the stupidist ideas in the history of the human race
 
Boo Radley said:
but, they've pledged before. How did that end?
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How have things been since the Libbos took over? We lost 293,000 jobs during the Wreckovery Summer.

Again, what was the unemployment rate when the Repubs were running the show?
 
liblady said:
at some point you will have to start posting some facts, barbie, else you will never be taken seriously. or at least some informed opinions.
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I don't want to dig back in the past for compiments or criticism. How bout starting now, you let me know the next time our president or his wife praises this great country.
 
liblady said:
at some point you will have to start posting some facts, barbie, else you will never be taken seriously. or at least some informed opinions.
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Ok, show us some facts. How much good have the Libbos done, since they took over? Are you actually impressed that Stealfromus money was spent on the study of the cocain habits of monkies?
 
Barbbtx said:
It's the uncertainty. I just heard they will not be voting on the Bush tax cuts until after the election. If businesses knew they were going to be made permanent it would make a huge difference. And if something was done about the new costs to small businesses in the health care bill, they'd have some sense of security to invest. As it is, they have no idea what's going to happen.
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tell me, barbie, what costs have small business endured to date because of the health care bill......and what cost does the average small business stand to incur?
 
liblady said:
tell me, barbie, what costs have small business endured to date because of the health care bill......and what cost does the average small business stand to incur?
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Of course they haven't incurred any costs because of Obamacare; it hasn't taken effect, yet...LOL!!!
 
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