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GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

Conservative said:
What exactly did they do the two previous years while in control of the legislative process? Have you ever taken a civics class and learn about the three equal branches of govt?
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You mean the two years in which the GOP minority doubled the number of filibusters?? Those two years?

Have you ever taken a civics class??
 
apdst said:
Of course they don't. They think we're all too stupid to understand how great Obama really is.
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If you bothered to pay any attention, you'd notice that Obama is getting increasing flak from the Left from following Bush. As many have finally realized, they voted for change and got Bush III.

The funny **** here is that you hate Obama....yet he's literally lockstep with many of Bush's policies not to mention the past two years he's enacted many former Republican platforms. Obama acts like a Republican....and you call him a horrible president all while planning to vote for Republicans. Man, I wish I could sell this level of hypocrisy. I'd be rich.

I guess the fact he's a Democrat is the only real reason you're against him.
 
As for this pledge, it's theatrics. The GOP has proven itself incapable of fiscal conservatism. They left out the biggest drivers of the deficit. And supply side economics has never fixed a financial recession in history. Americans aren't that dumb, considering the poll showing an overwhelming majority of people who think it doesn't matter who controls Congress, they can't make it better.
 
apdst said:
Show us how the repubs created the recession.
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apdst said:
No, alot of Americans got fooled by a punk, with the gift for gab. Most of them now see that that's really his only talent.
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I'm not a Democrat and I didn't vote for Obama. However, if you two want to pretend that this recession is all his and the Democrats fault, then you are on your own. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. It's truly sad that you have no grasp how Bush and the Republicans had their share in the financial meltdown, the loss of jobs, and the slow growth we are facing now. I've said it many times before, both the Dems and GOP are bad for America. The fact that you are trying to make the downturn of the economy into a partisan issue demonstrates a willful ignorance on your part and a blind obedience to ideology which requires you to ignore current reality and history. That is the kind of attitude that gets dumbasses elected and which creates the kind of problems we face now. If you want to talk about taking responsibility, then shoulder some of your own. You contributed to this mess by not using that damn thing sitting on your necks and insisting on taking a dichotomous perspective of the world. There is no us versus them when we are ****ed by bad policy and leadership.
 
Barbbtx said:
You've never heard that before?
What a maroon! just kidding, I don't really think you're a maroon. :)
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Mellie said:
I really DID do that. And it wasn't spelled wrong, ya maroon.
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LOL...No, I've never heard that before, but then again I don't have Bugs Bunny (looked it up...:)) on my FAV list on the remote...:3oops:
 
Not that I'm a fan of Red State's Erick Erickson, but at least he recognizes it for what it's worth.

"Yes, yes, it is full of mom tested, kid approved pablum that will make certain hearts on the right sing in solidarity."
 
obvious Child said:
If you bothered to pay any attention, you'd notice that Obama is getting increasing flak from the Left from following Bush. As many have finally realized, they voted for change and got Bush III.

The funny **** here is that you hate Obama....yet he's literally lockstep with many of Bush's policies not to mention the past two years he's enacted many former Republican platforms. Obama acts like a Republican....and you call him a horrible president all while planning to vote for Republicans. Man, I wish I could sell this level of hypocrisy. I'd be rich.

I guess the fact he's a Democrat is the only real reason you're against him.
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Obama is in lockstep with Bush? LMAO!!!! Never heard that talking point.
 
CriticalThought said:
I'm not a Democrat and I didn't vote for Obama. However, if you two want to pretend that this recession is all his and the Democrats fault, then you are on your own. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. It's truly sad that you have no grasp how Bush and the Republicans had their share in the financial meltdown, the loss of jobs, and the slow growth we are facing now. I've said it many times before, both the Dems and GOP are bad for America. The fact that you are trying to make the downturn of the economy into a partisan issue demonstrates a willful ignorance on your part and a blind obedience to ideology which requires you to ignore current reality and history. That is the kind of attitude that gets dumbasses elected and which creates the kind of problems we face now.
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Show us which policies that came directly from Bush, or Republican congress critters that caused the recession. Thanks in advance.

If you want to talk about taking responsibility, then shoulder some of your own. You contributed to this mess by not using that damn thing sitting on your necks and insisting on taking a dichotomous perspective of the world. There is no us versus them when we are ****ed by bad policy and leadership.
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I voted against Obama. I did my part to try to help this country.

You claim that you're not a Democrat and you didn't vote for Obama, yet I've never seen you criticize any of his policies. I've only seen you support his policies.
 
obvious Child said:
As for this pledge, it's theatrics. The GOP has proven itself incapable of fiscal conservatism. They left out the biggest drivers of the deficit. And supply side economics has never fixed a financial recession in history. Americans aren't that dumb, considering the poll showing an overwhelming majority of people who think it doesn't matter who controls Congress, they can't make it better.
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This is how I feel, but I know the answer is not the extreme Tea Party candidates that will easily be manipulated by GOP power brokers.

These Tea Folk candidates talk in very broad strokes 'cut spending'.

How, dummies?
 
hazlnut said:
This is how I feel, but I know the answer is not the extreme Tea Party candidates that will easily be manipulated by GOP power brokers.

These Tea Folk candidates talk in very broad strokes 'cut spending'.

How, dummies?
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What's the solution, in your opinion? More government intervention in the private sector?
 
the surest, shortest route to deficit reduction in 2011---repeal and replace
 
hazlnut said:
This is how I feel, but I know the answer is not the extreme Tea Party candidates that will easily be manipulated by GOP power brokers.

These Tea Folk candidates talk in very broad strokes 'cut spending'.

How, dummies?
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Our government always makes things too complicated. Look at our tax code. Look at the HC bill.
I say "keep it simple, stupid" Stop spending! That's the first simple step.
 
I've heard it said that the definition of crazy is to repeat an action over and over expecting a different result. It was the same old thing that got us into this mess so I'm not advising going back to what worked, but against the interests of the nation as a whole. I'm hoping that America wakes up to the need for change before November.
 
I've always been against the flat tax, but in light of a story on Kieth Olberman the other day which brought to light the fact that big businesses are changing their status to small business to manipulate tax policy, I've changed my mind. Now I say.....Sock it to em'.
 
apdst said:
Show us which policies that came directly from Bush, or Republican congress critters that caused the recession. Thanks in advance.
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Financial crisis of 2007

I voted against Obama. I did my part to try to help this country.
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Yeah, I don't think voting for McCain was any better a vote than voting for Obama.

You claim that you're not a Democrat and you didn't vote for Obama, yet I've never seen you criticize any of his policies. I've only seen you support his policies.
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Which policies? Some I don't support and some I do. When it comes to a lot of policies, all you can really say is "let's wait and see" because outside of ideological speculation, you don't know whether they will succeed or not.
 
today:

(ap is not making up this stuff, y'know, it's not spin)

My Way News - Regulators shut banks in Florida, Washington state

fdic ponies up 30B more, backed by more shaky mortgages (in THIS still plunging housing market)

127 banks have failed so far in 2010, expected to exceed the 140 in 09

"the pace is accelerating"

the fdic went into the red in 09, underwater by 21B

the "problem list" of banks to worry about leapfrogged to 829 in the second quarter, up from 775 three months prior

and yet the industry turned a profit of 22B, a full 20B of which was pocketed by the biggies, those with 10B+ of assetts, which make up only 1.3% of our institutions

the too bigs are getting too bigger

wake up
 
danarhea said:
This doesn't look like a Pledge to America. It looks more like a Pledge to Pfizer, Goldman Sachs, and Chevron-Texaco.
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rhinos aren't pleased

the most serious of the species are gonna have to support the party of pelosi, it appears
 
apdst said:
Obama is in lockstep with Bush? LMAO!!!! Never heard that talking point.
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Because you don't pay any attention. Or research. Or educate yourself in any way.

More then 30% of the stimulus was tax cuts.
A sizable portion was identical bonus depreciation under Bush.
Obama is pushing an amped up version of Bush R&D credits.
While not Bush, the healthcare bill is a watered down version of the bill Republicans tried to pass before.
Guantanamo Bay anyone?
We're still in Afghanistan and utilizing the same strategy Bush allowed Petreaus to use in Iraq.
Obama is further expanding the renewable energy credits under Bush.
Obama is expanding federal loan guarantees to nuclear plants.
TARP.
Obama through Duncan is attempt a revamp of education in similar theme to Bush's No Child Left Behind.
Obama has stonewalled saying what he's doing to stop domestic spying...mean it's still going on.
Obama hasn't stopped the Bush secret prisons for terrorists.

People voted for change....and got Bush III.
 
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obvious Child said:
Because you don't pay any attention. Or research. Or educate yourself in any way.

More then 30% of the stimulus was tax cuts.
A sizable portion was identical bonus depreciation under Bush.
Obama is pushing an amped up version of Bush R&D credits.
While not Bush, the healthcare bill is a watered down version of the bill Republicans tried to pass before.
Guantanamo Bay anyone?
We're still in Afghanistan and utilizing the same strategy Bush allowed Petreaus to use in Iraq.
Obama is further expanding the renewable energy credits under Bush.
Obama is expanding federal loan guarantees to nuclear plants.
TARP.
Obama through Duncan is attempt a revamp of education in similar theme to Bush's No Child Left Behind.
Obama has stonewalled saying what he's doing to stop domestic spying...mean it's still going on.
Obama hasn't stopped the Bush secret prisons for terrorists.

People voted for change....and got Bush III.
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Ya know, if I were trying to cover for Obama; the last thing I would do is say that he's too stupid to come up with his own, fresh ideas.

BTW, what do the not-so-secret prisons have to do with the economy? :rofl
 
if 30% of the stimulus was tax cuts, then 600B wasn't
 
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