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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Love it.. expose their own hypocrisy.. hope the Dems exploit this.
    Pray-tell, how could the Dems possibly exploit this? What are they going to do, tell us about all the great things they've done since they took over?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Pray-tell, how could the Dems possibly exploit this? What are they going to do, tell us about all the great things they've done since they took over?
    Been there; done that. How did it go once they were in charge?

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    It's just another one of the GOP's pamphlet full of jingoism and lacking in substance.

    But then look who wrote the GOP plan.....a lobbyist who worked for AIG, Pfizer, Exxon, Comcast....

    GOP 'Pledge To America' Director Lobbied For AIG, Exxon, Pfizer, Chamber of Commerce

    The Republican Party's 21-page blueprint, "Pledge to America," was put together with oversight by a House staffer who, up till April 2010, served as a lobbyist for some of the nation's most powerful oil, pharmaceutical, and insurance companies....

    Until early this year, Wild was a fairly active lobbyist on behalf of the firm the Nickles Group, the lobbying shop set up by the former Republican Senator from Oklahoma, Don Nickles. During his five years at the firm, Wild, among others, was paid $740,000 in lobbying contracts from AIG, the former insurance company at the heart of the financial collapse; $800,000 from energy giant Andarko Petroleum; more than $1.1 million from Comcast, more than $1.3 million from Exxon Mobil; and $625,000 from the pharmaceutical company Pfizer Inc.....

    GOP 'Pledge To America' Director Lobbied For AIG, Exxon, Pfizer, Chamber
    Surprise, it's another contract on America.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's just another one of the GOP's pamphlet full of jingoism and lacking in substance.

    But then look who wrote the GOP plan.....a lobbyist who worked for AIG, Pfizer, Exxon, Comcast....




    Surprise, it's another contract on America.
    I'll take it over Obama's Euro-retrashing of America any day.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    It's not the Contract with America but it's a good Start.
    It is my fondest wish that the "Dims" (no spell error) continue to be arrogant, and point crooked little fingers, call the opposition, names, and continue to dismiss the Tea Party, and in all things put the Trifecta of Doom Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their Socialist/Marxist Dim Party ahead of what's good for America and the "WE THE PEOPLE" because it will make their down fall come November sweet beyond belief.

    Knowing that the Wicked Witch of the West is going to have to give up her new plane and go back to flying commercial flights and move out of her $18,000 a month office and reduce her bloated staff.

    I Think the Republicans have learned they have been going in the wrong direction allowing the Dims to run wild and unchecked because they were being namby pamby march mallow milk toast long enough.

    This may not be everything we want but it shows the "TEA PARTY" is having a serious impact and the Obama agenda is going to be not only be stopped but his Anti-American plans and ploys are going to be rolled back.

    I'm not going dancing in the street but it's a good start.

    We are now hearing that Obama's inner circle is deserting the sinking ship of Obamania.

    Even Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod along with his entire failed economic team are on the list rats baling on the Amateur in Chief, and may I add for the good of the Nation.

    The Conservatives are on a come back, and I for one welcome it.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    I frankly think they should have kept their mouths shut until after this coming election and let the Tea Pary do their dirty work. I agree it gives their opponents something to attack. But I like to see goals and focus. But I haven't read the pledge so I don't know.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'll take it over Obama's Euro-retrashing of America any day.
    Have some national self esteem. Be big enough to handle some criticism.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's just another one of the GOP's pamphlet full of jingoism and lacking in substance.

    But then look who wrote the GOP plan.....a lobbyist who worked for AIG, Pfizer, Exxon, Comcast....



    Surprise, it's another contract on America.
    It's the Democrats that have a Contract ON America the Republicans had a Contract WITH America. The big difference is America doesn't know what is in the Democrat's contract on them. The Democarats secret contract mostly comprises of stealing the peoples money through taxes, destroying the free enterprise system and converting as many people as possible to dependence on the government.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    "Pledge to America" Unveiled by Republicans (Full Text) - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    introductory vision statement---the economy and the constitution

    stop job killing tax hikes, tax deductions for small biz, congressional approval required before any regulation that adds to deficit, repeal and replace obamacare, undo its mandate, non discretionary spending returned to 08 levels, budget caps, cancellation of all unspent tarp, fix fannie and fred, citation of constitutional authority for every bill to be voted on, 3 days allowed for reading of bills, support for troops, sdi, sanctions against iran...

    that's a pretty good start

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm currently in the process of reading the GOP Plan, and so far I haven't found anything of real substance that goes contrary to what the Washington Post has already summarized herein. To that, Ockham is correct. The GOP is treading very lightly here. From what I've read of it and based on the summary article, there's really nothing groundbreaking in this 21-page pledge that either hasn't already been attempted and shown it's not that easy to fully implement, i.e., not adding attachments to bills before a vote, or IMO that's really going to change things for the better, i.e., repealing health care reform.

    Many of the things the GOP are upset about, i.e., spending, TARP, stimulus, will eventually stop on its own, i.e., stimulus spending is only a 2-year program (2009-2011), TARP will end fully once the banks have all stabalized and repaid (most if not all of) their loans (and several large banks already have), and unemployment benefits are limited and have expiration periods anyway. So, when you get down to it there's really nothing along the lines of limiting government spending/fiscal responsibility that the GOP has to "tackle" that won't end on its own in short order. The small business tax issue is a different story, but even here you have to wade through the GOP double-talk.

    On the one hand they want to give more tax cuts/credits/deductions to small businesses, but that's what the Obama Administration is doing right now atleast in the short-term. Long-term might be a different story (i.e., taxes under health care legistlation), but no one really knows exactly how this will play out. However, if I understand health care reform legislation correctly, most small businesses would be exempt from paying any new taxes under healthcare reform and few would see a tax increase. Only large corporations would be affected where higher taxes under HCR legislation is concerned and even then they would only pay a tax if they don't provide health insurance coverage to their employees.

    I'll keep reading, but so far I really don't see anything Earth-shattering in this new "Contract w/America". Good ideas, but I really don't see anything new that either hasn't already been promised by both parties and said promises have been broken or aren't currently attempting to fully implemented (i.e., posting bills online or waitng 72-yrs before voting on same).
    If they do what they say they will for small businesses, we'll see the economy and jobs grow at astounding rates.. More jobs= more taxes paid.
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