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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

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    Govt. provides the incentive or lack of it for individuals to produce results. This Administration's results speak for themselves but the true Obama cult followers don't want to hold their choice to the same standards they held Bush. Bush continues to be blamed for the recession of 2008 even though the results today are worse this year vs. last.
    People provide their own incentives. They don't need government ot do it for them. Government does nto control the economy, and that is just the way it is.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

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    Although quite telling that Democrats and Obama supporters want to focus on everything prior to 2009 the fact remains Democrats can no longer blame Bush for making things worse in 2010 vs. 2009. What economic policy or prediction has Obama made that has improved the economy or been accurate?
    The GOP wants to go back to 2008 spending and tax levels, which you yourself have admitted were bad. Their "new pledge" is to do exactly what made the country vote them out in the first place.

    But nice try on changing the subject.

    Stimulus spending halted the jobs plummet.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    People provide their own incentives. They don't need government ot do it for them. Government does nto control the economy, and that is just the way it is.
    You really don't even know how your mind works. Do you spend more money when you have less take home pay? Govt. sets tax policy and personal income growth or decline is a factor in economic performance.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The GOP wants to go back to 2008 spending and tax levels, which you yourself have admitted were bad. Their "new pledge" is to do exactly what made the country vote them out in the first place.

    But nice try on changing the subject.

    Stimulus spending halted the jobs plummet.
    Depends, if TARP money is included then that is wrong. If it isn't that would be a good place to start. I believe that most people don't realize however that TARP was part of the fiscal year 2009 results and not part of the 2008 budget so therefore that could work. it is at least a start.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The GOP wants to go back to 2008 spending and tax levels, which you yourself have admitted were bad. Their "new pledge" is to do exactly what made the country vote them out in the first place.

    But nice try on changing the subject.

    Stimulus spending halted the jobs plummet.
    Stimulus has led to higher unemployment each month in 2010, that would be THIS YEAR. How has it stopped the job plummeting?

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

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    You really don't even know how your mind works. Do you spend more money when you have less take home pay? Govt. sets tax policy and personal income growth or decline is a factor in economic performance.
    Tax dollars aren't put into a giant pile and set on fire. When the government spends money, where do you think it goes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Tax dollars aren't put into a giant pile and set on fire. When the government spends money, where do you think it goes?
    Most of it goes to creating debt as well as inflation. Massive growth in the size of govt. is inflationary. Govt. produces nothing but increased demand on goods and services thus driving up prices.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

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    Stimulus has led to higher unemployment each month in 2010, that would be THIS YEAR. How has it stopped the job plummeting?
    Before the stimulus we were losing jobs far faster than we are now. Do you not understand the concept of rate of change?

    And seriously, we were running a deficit in 2008 no matter how you try to cherry-pick.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Before the stimulus we were losing jobs far faster than we are now. Do you not understand the concept of rate of change?

    And seriously, we were running a deficit in 2008 no matter how you try to cherry-pick.
    Yes, for three months and that happens in a recession, fact is there are more lost jobs this year than last year when the recession ended. I am cherrypicking nothing, you are, however, ignoring actual data and the question is why?

    GW Bush never had trillion dollar deficits and Obama has had two. Name for me any other President in U.S. history with trillion dollar deficits?

    Stop buying what you are told and do some research.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How many bills did Democrats get 66 votes in the Senate on? Because every bill with 65 votes or less could have been vetoed. Any bill with 59 votes or less could have been filibustered. Putting 100% of the blame on Democrats for taking over in 2006 is silly. It's a shared responsibility because, honestly, Democratic and Republican spending has not been substantially different for decades. They both raise spending.

    More on-topic, Senator Boehner literally straight up said when he introduced this pledge "We're not going to be different than we have been."

    These people are clueless.
    But clueless is easy to fix when Conservatives are willing to fix it. The problem is that same willingness to fix is noticably absent from Progressive liberals. Unlike the joke Obama played on America with the Hope / Change nonsense, I think most Conservatives understand change does not happen with one document, or one election, or one person. Grass roots change is coming and with any luck, it will be a tidal wave that will continue to grow and oh yes, change will come. Just not the change YOU'D want, and that will make me very happy.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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