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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

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    Yet Obama blames Bush, Obama supporters blame Bush and continue to blame Bush for the "inherited" Problems two years after Bush left office. The results of the Stimulus and the first two years of the Obama Administration will be the issues judged on Nov. 2, 2010. The most radical leftwing President in U.S. History has made things worse in his first two years of office and yet the Obama supporters continue to blame Bush. Congress and the President make economic policy that affects the country and it is the Obama economic policies that have led to the results we have today.

    Still waiting for you to name for me one Obama economic policy that has made things better? The GOP Pledge is a step in the right direction.
    Mostly that is a proper way to note your side's hypocracy. If Obama and the democrats have blame, then so do Bush and the republicans. And as far as the debt goes, you can't argue fighting two needless wars without any effrot to pay for them isn't part of that problem. Only a idiot would argue Bush didn't contribute heavily to the debt.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Mostly that is a proper way to note your side's hypocracy. If Obama and the democrats have blame, then so do Bush and the republicans. And as far as the debt goes, you can't argue fighting two needless wars without any effrot to pay for them isn't part of that problem. Only a idiot would argue Bush didn't contribute heavily to the debt.
    Absolutely and I have made that statement many times but you are too busy being partisan. Bush made a lot of mistakes as President but Bush is out of office and Obama has made things worse yet he continues to blame Bush. Bush spending HELPED create the debt but Obama has put Bush spending on steroids yet is ignored.

    The President of the U.S. is Barack Obama and anyone that views his results as positive is out of touch with reality. The recession began in December 2007 almost a year after Democrats took control of Congress and implemented the 2008 budget and economic policies. Democrats have been in control of the legislative process since January 2007. Even with that Congress Bush never had a trillion dollar deficit.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

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    Absolutely and I have made that statement many times but you are too busy being partisan. Bush made a lot of mistakes as President but Bush is out of office and Obama has made things worse yet he continues to blame Bush. Bush spending HELPED create the debt but Obama has put Bush spending on steroids yet is ignored.

    The President of the U.S. is Barack Obama and anyone that views his results as positive is out of touch with reality. The recession began in December 2007 almost a year after Democrats took control of Congress and implemented the 2008 budget and economic policies. Democrats have been in control of the legislative process since January 2007. Even with that Congress Bush never had a trillion dollar deficit.
    I'm afraid not. You've excused bush in the apst. I have consistently said no president controls the economy. You argue tax cuts grow the economy with no evidence to support it. Not to mention Bush cut taxes and the economy went south anyway.

    No, your hypocrracy is what we see here.


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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Closing Argument = they've had 2 years to fix what we did in 8. Isn't it time we go back to doing things our way?

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm afraid not. You've excused bush in the apst. I have consistently said no president controls the economy. You argue tax cuts grow the economy with no evidence to support it. Not to mention Bush cut taxes and the economy went south anyway.

    No, your hypocrracy is what we see here.

    I understand, Boo, in the liberal world results don't really matter and are trumped by rhetoric. I posted GDP numbers as well as income tax revenue numbers. Your silence is deafening but your defense of the liberal agenda tells it all. Dependence is what you seem to want and liberals continue to deliver those kind of results.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

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    I understand, Boo, in the liberal world results don't really matter and are trumped by rhetoric. I posted GDP numbers as well as income tax revenue numbers. Your silence is deafening but your defense of the liberal agenda tells it all. Dependence is what you seem to want and liberals continue to deliver those kind of results.
    As I and others keep pointing out, you misread your numbers and they don't say what you think they say.

    This has nothing to do with liberals and conservatives. It's more about me and you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Closing Argument = they've had 2 years to fix what we did in 8. Isn't it time we go back to doing things our way?
    LOL, the numbers apparently don't matter to you nor do the facts, the recession began in December 2007 a year after Democrats won control of Congress. Prior to December the numbers look pretty darn good. Keep running from the Democrat record which shows the economy worse this year than in 2009. That to a Democrat is progress?

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    I really like Jon Stewart's perspective most of the time:

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...rom-the-pledge

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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yet Obama blames Bush, Obama supporters blame Bush and continue to blame Bush for the "inherited" Problems two years after Bush left office. The results of the Stimulus and the first two years of the Obama Administration will be the issues judged on Nov. 2, 2010. The most radical leftwing President in U.S. History has made things worse in his first two years of office and yet the Obama supporters continue to blame Bush. Congress and the President make economic policy that affects the country and it is the Obama economic policies that have led to the results we have today.

    Still waiting for you to name for me one Obama economic policy that has made things better? The GOP Pledge is a step in the right direction.
    Maybe I'm being to simplistic or just wrong headed. Howevere, Bush was responsible for TARP right?
    TARP was paid back wasn't it? Shouldn't that take the blame off Bush, since what he spent was re-paid, or am I looking at it all wrong?
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    Re: GOP 'Pledge' makes closing argument to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As I and others keep pointing out, you misread your numbers and they don't say what you think they say.

    This has nothing to do with liberals and conservatives. It's more about me and you.
    Liberal translation, "growing numbers don't really matter as perception means more"

    GDP by Year in trillions

    2000 9,951.50
    2001 10,286.20
    2002 10,642.30
    2003 11,142.10
    2004 11,867.80
    2005 12,638.40
    2006 13,398.90
    2007 14,077.60
    2008 14,441.40
    2009 14,256.30

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