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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and we find that the Carter doctrine regarding soviet efforts to control persian gulf oil was as wrong as the bush regime insisting that iraq aided al qaeda and possessed weapons of mass destruction, and had supported the 9/11 attack
    (to his credit, at least Carter did not cost us treasure and the lives of our young with his own misrepresentations)

    i am surprised that you drank the kool aid of the left as well as the right
    certainly, if a politician says someting, it must be the truth [/sarcasm]
    We do? Well, by all means, let's see your proof.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We do? Well, by all means, let's see your proof.
    easy. we see no evidence of a soviet assault on the nations of the persian gulf
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    point out the reference to the soviets going thru afghanistan to attain control of persian gulf oil. i missed seeing it
    Did you read it at all???

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    easy. we see no evidence of a soviet assault on the nations of the persian gulf
    Well of couurse not. They were stopped in Afghanistan!

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    The Origins of the Soviet-Afghan War
    insights into the circumstances which prompted the war. included are some ussr communiques describing the background
    nothing indicates afghanistan was a path taken to reach the persian gulf
    And of course nothing indicates it doesn't. What it does mean is that you should look at other material, other sources. I offered one.


    so, you think that a look at a map makes the point that the soviets intended to control the oil of the persian gulf
    A map as well as the beliefs of other political leaders. I mentioned a world map to demonstrate how important Afghanistan would be to the Soviets.
    no need on your part to consider these things that are described as "facts". try them out sometime. they will serve you better than staring at a map
    In fact I have mentioned facts and suggest you look at a map and you'll get the idea. No need to stare.

    and still no facts ... just map watching
    Well you can look away now.
    how could i have missed that. you were referring to the world scene when referring to new members:
    You make a valid point here. I was referring to new members to the world of international politics but I can see how you could easily misunderstand. I should have been more clear.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Did you read it at all???
    which is what causes me to point out that article does not refer to the points you insist it does

    but prove me wrong and point them out
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well of couurse not. They were stopped in Afghanistan!
    thank you for proving my point
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    jimmy carter LIED us into the olympics boycott

    30 years later, i must say, that's a NEW one

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    easy. we see no evidence of a soviet assault on the nations of the persian gulf
    That's your proof?!? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

    That's like saying Hitler didn't want to invade the United States; the proof? He didn't do it...

    Whatta hoot!!!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    thank you for proving my point
    Incredible!!

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