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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Anyone who would knowingly undermine American forces that are fighting on any given battlefield, is a traitor.
    The trouble is being able to judge what that really means. An idiot thinks that trying to stop a CIC from spending their lives needlessly is undermining Americvan forces. An intelligent person knows that such an argument shows concern and patriotism. Too often, the idiot class try to defend their reckless politiicans at the cost of Americans under the guise of patriotism. Such idiots are not patirots or good Americans. The actually function contrary to American ideals. Free men welcome proper decent, and celebrate honest objections, without fear.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The trouble is being able to judge what that really means.
    Here we go....Bring on the grey shades of nuance. Tell me Joe, would you consider a person holding power in the US meeting with an ally of the enemy, to disrupt supply lines to their own forces to be treason?


    An idiot thinks that trying to stop a CIC from spending their lives needlessly is undermining Americvan forces.
    Then you must have a real problem with Obama sending in 30,000 troops while behind the scenes only looking for a way to run...

    An intelligent person knows that such an argument shows concern and patriotism.
    Or just chicken**** cowardice.

    Too often, the idiot class try to defend their reckless politiicans at the cost of Americans under the guise of patriotism.
    Define "Idiot class" so that you look even more foolish.

    Such idiots are not patirots or good Americans. The actually function contrary to American ideals. Free men welcome proper decent, and celebrate honest objections, without fear.
    No doubt...Any idea when libs might start?


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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Of course we need to know exactly wha something is. Many a brutal regime uses all disent as sign of being a traitor, so we have to be clear on what we're talking about. It is the idiot wh doesn't look for such clarity.

    And the idiot class are those who don't stop to think and simple see any dissent as traitorous. Follow any of the"libs," whoever they are, are traitors talk, and you're likely to find memebers of the idiot class.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Of course we need to know exactly wha something is.
    Which is why I asked a pretty specific question, why do you avoid it?


    Many a brutal regime uses all disent as sign of being a traitor, so we have to be clear on what we're talking about.
    Yes let's....I am waiting sir.

    It is the idiot wh doesn't look for such clarity.
    Again, I don't know who you are referring to with such a pejorative name as Idiot. However, if this is some cute attempt to name call I think it speaks more to your lack of thinking.

    And the idiot class are those who don't stop to think and simple see any dissent as traitorous.
    So you are in agreement with the TEA Partiers right to dissent? How about those opposed to the Mosque in NYC's ground zero community?

    Follow any of the"libs," whoever they are, are traitors talk, and you're likely to find memebers of the idiot class.
    You never fail to disappoint Joe. So, any reasonable reading of this would have to conclude that you think that those in disagreement with you are Idiots. I think you should excuse yourself, you've embarrassed yourself enough today.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    I didn't see a reasonable question. You spoke of "libs," whoever they are, and continue to drift down the partisan denail river. Ask an honest question, and I'll gladly answer you.

    And no, I think those who have done what some war supports have done, and tried to claim all and any dissent is traitoous are clealry part of the idiot class. I would include anyone who uses libs or righties as all incompassing tags, trying to avoid any intelligent discussion marginaling their opponents.

    Clear yet?

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't see a reasonable question.
    Well, it's only two postings up, but here I'll ask it again....would you consider a person holding power in the US meeting with an ally of the enemy, to disrupt supply lines to their own forces to be treason?

    What is unreasonable about that question, and how?


    You spoke of "libs," whoever they are
    Totally disingenuous. You Joe, you are a liberal, your moniker denotes it, your words for the past 5 + years shout it, and you are a liberal plain and simple.

    and continue to drift down the partisan denail river.
    You mean like calling your opponents "Idiots" because they don't agree with you?

    Ask an honest question, and I'll gladly answer you.
    No you won't...It is not in you to do so.

    And no, I think those who have done what some war supports have done, and tried to claim all and any dissent is traitoous are clealry part of the idiot class.
    However, that is not to say that some of what opponents of the wars have done isn't traitorous.

    I would include anyone who uses libs or righties as all incompassing tags, trying to avoid any intelligent discussion marginaling their opponents.
    Tags like "Idiots"?

    Clear yet?
    As the mud you present.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Free men welcome proper decent, and celebrate honest objections, without fear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Follow any of the"libs," whoever they are, are traitors talk, and you're likely to find memebers of the idiot class.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think those who have done what some war supports have done, and tried to claim all and any dissent is traitoous are clealry part of the idiot class. I would include anyone who uses libs or righties as all incompassing tags, trying to avoid any intelligent discussion marginaling their opponents.
    idiot class, huh?

    talented 5th graders speak better

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Clear yet?
    some things are

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, it's only two postings up, but here I'll ask it again....would you consider a person holding power in the US meeting with an ally of the enemy, to disrupt supply lines to their own forces to be treason?

    What is unreasonable about that question, and how?




    Totally disingenuous. You Joe, you are a liberal, your moniker denotes it, your words for the past 5 + years shout it, and you are a liberal plain and simple.



    You mean like calling your opponents "Idiots" because they don't agree with you?



    No you won't...It is not in you to do so.



    However, that is not to say that some of what opponents of the wars have done isn't traitorous.



    Tags like "Idiots"?



    As the mud you present.

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    Do you have an example of anyone doing that, or that the person I responded to was talking about that? Again, reasonable has to be seen in connection with what we're actually dicussing.

    And stupid is a stupid does. I've clear about exactly who I'm including in the idiot class, those who see all dissent as traitorous and those who use tag lines like "libs" and "righties."

    How about simply address what is actually being discussed.

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    idiot class, huh?

    talented 5th graders speak better



    some things are
    Is this where we next see mindless linking without comment?

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    Re: Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan w

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do you have an example of anyone doing that, or that the person I responded to was talking about that? Again, reasonable has to be seen in connection with what we're actually dicussing.

    And stupid is a stupid does. I've clear about exactly who I'm including in the idiot class, those who see all dissent as traitorous and those who use tag lines like "libs" and "righties."

    How about simply address what is actually being discussed.

    ANSWER THE QUESTION!


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