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    Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    Along with it the Dream Act Amnesty was also killed, and the news could not be better and I see it as a sneak peek at things to come.

    Obama must be fuming at this point with this and Sarah Palins numbers climbing while his are headed for a whirley in the porcelain convenience.

    According to the O.C. Register it was killed because of our efforts to kill these awful bill attached to Military Spending legislation.

    So Congrats to all the real Americans who got involved. SALUTE

    Harry Reid voted against it because he put in the Bill and by not voting for it he can bring it back in the Lame Duck secession.

    Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote - TheHill.com

    The Senate on Tuesday dealt a significant blow to the Obama administrationís efforts to repeal the ban on openly gay people serving in the military.

    In a 56-43 vote, Senate Democratic leaders fell short of the 60 votes they needed to proceed to the 2011 defense authorization bill, which included language to repeal the Clinton-era ďDonít ask, donít tellĒ law.
    Those who stand for nothing fall for anything

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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    I sure hope the Republicans are ready to need a 60-vote majority to do anything the next time they think they've got the upper hand.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    Was the law going to also repeal the reason that Don't Ask Don't Tell was written in the first place? Because the reason it exists is because there is a direct ban of gays in the military, and DADT was just a way to make sure that the military didn't actively seek gays to kick out of the military.

    If it was also going to repeal that rule, then too bad it didn't pass. If it wasn't, then it would have done more harm than good, because we would be back to square one of gays being actively banned from the military.
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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    Doesn't matter. Even if an act of Congress repealed DADT but left the rulestanding, it is within the President's ability to overturn.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I sure hope the Republicans are ready to need a 60-vote majority to do anything the next time they think they've got the upper hand.
    What about rewarding law breakers exactly do you favor.

    The don't ask don't Tell is nothing to me but the 20 plus million Illegal Aliens need to pay for breaking the law and for gaming the welfare and medical systems.

    The Democrat Party of DUH likes to call the Republicans the Party of no, and I like it. But I'm hoping the Tea Party is soon known as the Party of HELL NO!!!!

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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    What about rewarding law breakers exactly do you favor.
    What about rewarding law breakers exactly did I say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The don't ask don't Tell is nothing to me but the 20 plus million Illegal Aliens need to pay for breaking the law and for gaming the welfare and medical systems.

    The Democrat Party of DUH likes to call the Republicans the Party of no, and I like it. But I'm hoping the Tea Party is soon known as the Party of HELL NO!!!!
    Herro, Farmer in the Dell! What a nice strawman you has!
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Doesn't matter. Even if an act of Congress repealed DADT but left the rulestanding, it is within the President's ability to overturn.
    I'm pretty sure it is the other way. Obama can repeal DADT because it was an executive order, but the rule that DADT was in response to was passed by Congress, so only Congress can repeal that rule, therefore Obama overturning DADT would only hurt gays in the military.
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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    "This is a victory for the men and women who serve our nation in uniform. At least for now they will not be used to advance a radical social agenda,” said Family Research Council President Tony Perkins.
    Ahh, yes, I knew that somewhere within that article I would find some holier-than-thou snake oil salesman of 'family values' rearing his head, and yammering on about radical social agendas. In this fashion, Tony Perkins does not disappoint.
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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    obama doesn't have the guts, he lacks the leadership, and this issue really isn't dear to his heart

    he's been playing this constituency just like hispanics, just like the professional left, just like REAL anti wall street reformers, just like african americans, even

    pretty much everybody except one rather incendiary group of internationals

    it is what it is

    and it's far worse than even i at first thought

    The high-profile collapse of what would have been a landmark bill triggered a round of second-guessing and recriminations from repeal proponents. Their main targets: President Barack Obama, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), and leaders of gay rights organizations who have helped set strategy for repeal efforts.

    In the last few days, as the likelihood of defeat became apparent, some repeal advocates also blamed Republican obstructionism, but most said the president didn’t work hard enough to keep his campaign promise of repeal, and said Reid erred by rejecting Republican requests to allow the GOP to offer amendments

    Some prominent advocates of repeal scolded McCain and Republicans for their role in the filibuster, but some strategists said Obama, gay rights groups and lawmakers had been too deferential to elements in the military who wanted to slow-walk any change to the policy.

    “This is the result of an across-the-board failure of leadership by the president, the Pentagon and the Congress,” said Richard Socarides, who advised Clinton on gay issues. “Delaying repeal for another pentagon study was exactly the wrong strategy and played right into the hands of entrenched military interests opposed to open service now as they were in 1993.”

    Others faulted Obama for being largely absent from the debate.
    Senate Republicans block 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal - Josh Gerstein and Scott Wong - POLITICO.com

    the article continues to quote prominent repeal proponents michelangelo signorile and alexander nicholson of the servicemember's legal defense network who absolutely trash obama and reid

    human rights, tho crestfallen, struggled hard to find a rainbow---recess passage---but politico promptly pounded that perception with the reality of nov 2

    susan collins goes on about how badly she WANTS to repeal dadt, but...

    this bill which could easily have passed failed solely due to a complete absence of leadership and its amateur handling

    sorry

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    Re: Senate deals blow to 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in 56-43 vote

    AMERICAblog Gay: We lost in the Senate, 'The whole thing is a political train wreck'

    ouch

    you just can't bury these things, barry, not in america

    they cannot be stuffed in closets

    sorry, folks
    Last edited by The Prof; 09-21-10 at 08:41 PM.

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