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'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

OscarB63 said:
When I was on active duty, years ago, there was a gay dude (suspected) that lived in my barracks. "Sweet" Mike, was always the first guy in the showers in the morning and the last guy to leave. he would stand in the corner and watch whilst soaping himself. If he was in the barracks and anyone took a shower during the day/evening hours, Sweet Mike would find an excuse to knock on the door within seconds of you getting back from the shower.

I have no proof that Mike was gay, maybe he just liked to look at other dudes dicks. He was eventually kicked out, not for being gay, but for being a lousy soldier. failure to adapt to military lifestyle.

I realize that sweet Mike is atypical of the average gay dude in the military, but it still gave me the creeps.
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That is kind of a crappy example. But it sounds like he got kicked out for the right reason.
 
disneydude said:
Actually, if you look at a lot of sex studies the answer to your question would be the majority.
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Yeah, right.If you believe that I have some water front property I want to sell you in Arizona....ROTFLMAO
 
Dr_Patrick said:
Which doesn't explain why pleasure can be derived by stimulating the prostate...which is located in the anus. So, in essence, you're right...we were designed that way.
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I have never heard of anyone gettin pregnant that way..have you?
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah, right.If you believe that I have some water front property I want to sell you in Arizona....ROTFLMAO
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Wow... seriously? Some [supposedly] straight dude is going to claim superior knowledge about the sexual acts homosexual men most often engage in? Really, Navy?

Navy Pride said:
I have never heard of anyone gettin pregnant that way..have you?
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Never heard of anyone getting pregnant sucking a dick, licking a clit, or masturbating either. And?
 
rivrrat said:
Wow... seriously? Some [supposedly] straight dude is going to claim superior knowledge about the sexual acts homosexual men most often engage in? Really, Navy?



Never heard of anyone getting pregnant sucking a dick, licking a clit, or masturbating either. And?
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survey says gay dudes prefer pole smoking over pillow biting. I can see that. I would imagine that anal can sometimes be a pain in the ass.
 
Navy Pride said:
I have never heard of anyone gettin pregnant that way..have you?
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If the sole purpose for sex were procreation, then why does it feel good? Why does oral sex feel good? Oh, and I'm sure that all of the sex you've had was for procreative purposes otherwise you wouldn't be saying this.
 
winston53660 said:
So why do you constantly bring it up and keep on talking about it?
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I am against DADT being cancelled....period................anything else I have said is in response to lefties like you..............

To be really honest with you I wish it was the way when I enlisted...............You swore and signed a statement tthat you were not gay and had never engaged in gay sex.....that worked great..

Now come on after me.................This old country boy is ready.............
 
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I really don't believe there is any way we can really know the percentage of gays who enage in anal sex. I don't think gays are going to be honest about it because it is uncool to admit to what we know is risky sexual behavior. The idea that people have in their head that gay anal sex = HIV is kind of hard to live down. So I think many studies are agenda driven. I would say that just like a lot of young heterosexuals are engaging in sexual intercourse so are a lot of young homosexuals which necessarily means anal sex. Just like heterosexuals as you get older and more responsible the frequency probably goes down. It is kind of silly to suggest that anal sex is no big deal in gay relationships as it seems to be suggested time and again in these discussions.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Yeah, right.If you believe that I have some water front property I want to sell you in Arizona....ROTFLMAO
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It's pretty much common sense in the gay community. Oral sex and masturbation have low riskss for HIV transmission and anal sex has high risks. Therefore, approximately half of gay men simply don't have anal sex. Not to mention a hell of a lot of gay men find the act disgusting and prefer frotting or other sexual practices. I met one not long ago who said he was totally turned off by the idea of fecal matter around his penis.

Anywho, anal sex is in no way a prerequisite to being a gay man.
 
CriticalThought said:
It's pretty much common sense in the gay community. Oral sex and masturbation have low riskss for HIV transmission and anal sex has high risks. Therefore, approximately half of gay men simply don't have anal sex. Not to mention a hell of a lot of gay men find the act disgusting and prefer frotting or other sexual practices. I met one not long ago who said he was totally turned off by the idea of fecal matter around his penis.

Anywho, anal sex is in no way a prerequisite to being a gay man.
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Anal sex is more a heterosexual thing than a homosexual one.
 
jambalaya said:
I really don't believe there is any way we can really know the percentage of gays who enage in anal sex. I don't think gays are going to be honest about it because it is uncool to admit to what we know is risky sexual behavior. The idea that people have in their head that gay anal sex = HIV is kind of hard to live down. So I think many studies are agenda driven. I would say that just like a lot of young heterosexuals are engaging in sexual intercourse so are a lot of young homosexuals which necessarily means anal sex. Just like heterosexuals as you get older and more responsible the frequency probably goes down.
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Gay men have no reason to fear a confidential survey. No matter how "uncool" unsafe sex is, if you can't attach their name to it, they have no reason to lie.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
If the sole purpose for sex were procreation, then why does it feel good? Why does oral sex feel good? Oh, and I'm sure that all of the sex you've had was for procreative purposes otherwise you wouldn't be saying this.
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sex feels good so people will do it and thus procreate. If sex didn't feel good, how many people would still do it? How willing to have sex would you be if in order to ejaculate you had to be punched in the eye? The fact that oral, manual, gerbil sstimulation of the sex organs feels good doesn't detract from the biological fact that they were designed/evolved primarily to procreate.
 
rivrrat said:
Anal sex is more a heterosexual thing than a homosexual one.
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That is definately true. Especially in Afriica. It has been used forever as a form of birth control due to lack of contraceptives, and has contributed immensely to the spread of HIV among heterosexuals in that population.
 
rivrrat said:
I missed the word "survey" in there. They took a survey. Actually, they've taken many.
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And you know for a fact they were all truthful..............One thing you can't refute is gay men live expectancy is about 10 years less on average then straight men........
 
OscarB63 said:
sex feels good so people will do it and thus procreate. If sex didn't feel good, how many people would still do it? How willing to have sex would you be if in order to ejaculate you had to be punched in the eye? The fact that oral, manual, gerbil sstimulation of the sex organs feels good doesn't detract from the biological fact that they were designed/evolved primarily to procreate.
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I agree, Reproductive organs evolved for procreation.

Of course, that doesn't mean sex, the behavior, has evolved purely for procreation.

Sex serves several purposes among social animals like ourselves. It leads to procreation, acts as a means of recreation, and serves as a social bonding agent to strengthen group cohesion.

Ecology is an interesting science. Very few people have even a basic grasp of it.
 
rivrrat said:
Wow... seriously? Some [supposedly] straight dude is going to claim superior knowledge about the sexual acts homosexual men most often engage in? Really, Navy?



Never heard of anyone getting pregnant sucking a dick, licking a clit, or masturbating either. And?
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1. I am saying no one really knows......2. you can sure catch some STDs in a couple of those acts...........You ever see someone that had a dose of clap in their throat? Not a pretty sight...........
 
Navy Pride said:
And you know for a fact they were all truthful..............One thing you can't refute is gay men live expectancy is about 10 years less on average then straight men........
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Those statistics are based on urban centers in the industrialized world in the 90's before the advent of many of the most effective antiviral treatments for HIV.

And if you want to be technical, they measure the life expectancy of people infected with HIV, not gays. I could take a sample of people in Uganda and argue that black women have a life expectancy of 10-20 years less. It doesn't make it true.
 
Navy Pride said:
And you know for a fact they were all truthful..............One thing you can't refute is gay men live expectancy is about 10 years less on average then straight men........
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I would assume they're as truthful as your military dudes are going to be with the Pentagon survey regarding DADT.

As for refuting your latter statement, I have no interest in refuting it since it is irrelevant.
 
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