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'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

Yeah the hell with what the troops feel, they don't count, they will do as they are told like a bunch of zombies........They will die for you....The hell with morale and readiness (sarcasm)

If DADT is unconstitutional, then it doesn't matter what troops think. Furthermore, it didn't matter when blacks were integrated into the military and it didn't matter when women were integrated in the military, so why should it start mattering now?
 
Yeah the hell with what the troops feel, they don't count, they will do as they are told like a bunch of zombies........They will die for you....The hell with morale and readiness (sarcasm)

The people you are attacking are American soliders too. So you only stand for the rights and beliefs of specific type of solider?
 
No, you talk to your friends who are Civil War-era veterans like you. Times have changed. And I'm pretty sure that whatever town you're from isn't representative of the entire military.



Because once their study is concluded, if they determine that there is no problem with allowing gays to serve, you'll just change the benchmarks. Again. Then you'll be demanding some other study.



If equal civil rights is "all politics," then yes.



Aside from your bizarre homoerotic fantasies about some gay dude checking out your junk in the shower, you haven't voiced ANY reason why gays should not be allowed to serve openly in the military.

after serving 21 years in the Navy I saw it first hand my left wing friend..............You are clueless on the issue...........
 
Unbelieveable!!!!! These guys are dying to give you the right to make a statement like that..........

So are the homosexual soldiers you are attacking. Why are there rights any less valid then other soldiers?
 
The people you are attacking are American soliders too. So you only stand for the rights and beliefs of specific type of solider?

I know about morale and troop readiness..That is obviously something you know nothing about................
 
after serving 21 years in the Navy I saw it first hand my left wing friend..............You are clueless on the issue...........

The military has changed significantly since you and I served NP. Gays are fairly open these days, and most people in the military actually know gays serving. I think you would be surprised by what the people who serve now think on the issue. Further, whether they want DADT repealed or not is irrelevant and not the point of the Pentagon study.
 
So are the homosexual soldiers you are attacking. Why are there rights any less valid then other soldiers?[/QUOT

I attack no one.....I just believe if it ain't broke don't try and fix it...........
 
I know about morale and troop readiness..That is obviously something you know nothing about................

Actually, you have not shown that you do.
 
I know about morale and troop readiness..That is obviously something you know nothing about................

What does that have to do with you attacking American soliders who don't meet your specific profile of who a soldier should be?
 
The military has changed significantly since you and I served NP. Gays are fairly open these days, and most people in the military actually know gays serving. I think you would be surprised by what the people who serve now think on the issue. Further, whether they want DADT repealed or not is irrelevant and not the point of the Pentagon study.

I don't agree there is a CVN sitting in PSNS right now and ships company would disagree with you to..........
 
Well, anyone who seriously thinks that DADT will end because of a decision made by some judge they are kidding themselves. It will be repealed, but it will be awhile before it happens. Progress takes time. This also won't be the last of this issue. People will continue to fight for it until it happens, and it will.
 
I attack no one.....I just believe if it ain't broke don't try and fix it...........

But it is broke. We have a sitution where able and willing American citizens that want to fight for our freedom's have to choose between either being denied their right to serve in the American military or lie about who they are.

What exactly in any of that is "American"?
 
December is going to be an interesting month.
 
This will be my last post to this thread..............I am glad the Congress came to the senses (at least the Republicans) and blocked the repeal of DADT............In November when the Republicans take over the congress or at least pick up 7 or 8 votes in the Senate that will ensure that DADT will not be repealed.................
 
Well, anyone who seriously thinks that DADT will end because of a decision made by some judge they are kidding themselves. It will be repealed, but it will be awhile before it happens. Progress takes time. This also won't be the last of this issue. People will continue to fight for it until it happens, and it will.

This was not a judges decision, this was a vote.
 
This will be my last post to this thread..............I am glad the Congress came to the senses (at least the Republicans) and blocked the repeal of DADT............In November when the Republicans take over the congress or at least pick up 7 or 8 votes in the Senate that will ensure that DADT will not be repealed.................

Just out of curiosity, Navy. Why did you bother starting this thread if you were planning on ducking out early? This isn't an attack, by the way. I'm just curious.
 
This was not a judges decision, this was a vote.

Yes, I know. I'm mainly addressing the people who make the activist judge claim about these types of issues.
 
This will be my last post to this thread..............I am glad the Congress came to the senses (at least the Republicans) and blocked the repeal of DADT............In November when the Republicans take over the congress or at least pick up 7 or 8 votes in the Senate that will ensure that DADT will not be repealed.................

And American can continue to be the great country that suppresses people's livelihood if they don't fit into the ideal stereotype's.

The American Military - "If you don't meet our sexual profile of who a solider should be just lie to us. We don't really care who you are unless we find out."
 
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This will be my last post to this thread..............I am glad the Congress came to the senses (at least the Republicans) and blocked the repeal of DADT............In November when the Republicans take over the congress or at least pick up 7 or 8 votes in the Senate that will ensure that DADT will not be repealed.................

Many republicans favor the repeal of DADT as well, but joined with many democrats in saying that this was not the time. Facts are a good thing.
 
Yes, I know. I'm mainly addressing the people who make the activist judge claim about these types of issues.

The "activist judge" claim is one of the most retarded things thrown around out here. I keep asking, and have yet to get an answer on why the judge was activist, other than they do not like the ruling.
 
I don't think one valid reason to keep DADT in effect has been presented through 5 pages of discussion, who would of thought??
 
I don't think one valid reason to keep DADT in effect has been presented through 5 pages of discussion, who would of thought??

There never is a valid reason. The only reason it is even in place was because it was the only way to bypass the overly emotional homophbic response to the issue and let homosexuals serve in the military.

The same response to homosexuals serving was presented to blacks serving and women serving. Contray to the outcries of the time, both have made no negative imact to the military.
 
well....YOU are the one who gay bashes, i'd call that intolerant, wouldn't you? i think the righties are playing politics to get the CLOSETED gay vote, don't you?

He did not gay bash. Please do not lie.
 
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