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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Just out of curiosity, Navy. Why did you bother starting this thread if you were planning on ducking out early? This isn't an attack, by the way. I'm just curious.
    Did you even bother to look at how many attack posts he responded to?
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

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    He did not gay bash. Please do not lie.

    i already conceded that point, try to keep up.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i already conceded that point, try to keep up.
    You shouldn't have made it in the first place. I know its a standard attack for anyone that doesn't agree with you on this issue but you really need to control your emotions.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The reason this went down was that the Pentagon study on the issue does not finish until January of next year. Most want to wait on the results from that before voting in favor of a repeal, which is the best course of action. A few more months won't matter. DADT will still probably not be around even a year from now.
    From what I hear, they also tried to tack on a bunch of things to the bill that made even some anti-DADT Senators like Susan Collins vote against it. Probably to try to paint the GOP as obstructionist or homophobic or something... I don't think it was a very smart move, though.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Did you even bother to look at how many attack posts he responded to?
    Which does exactly what to answer my question? That's what the report button is for. If you are going to bow out of a conversation that's fine, but to make a grandiose gesture of announcing it a few pages in when you started the thread is a little silly to me.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    From what I hear, they also tried to tack on a bunch of things to the bill that made even some anti-DADT Senators like Susan Collins vote against it. Probably to try to paint the GOP as obstructionist or homophobic or something... I don't think it was a very smart move, though.
    As I read it, there was procedural stuff going on involving limiting of debate and such. Collins said she would vote for the bill if they did not limit republican debate, but the democrats did. I think what happened is they realized they did not have the votes to do it at this time(even with her) and so hurried it through and Reid voted against it so that he can bring it back up whenever he desires basically.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    after serving 21 years in the Navy I saw it first hand my left wing friend..............You are clueless on the issue...........
    You saw what firsthand? Gay people in the military? Well stop the presses. Gay people are in the military whether they're allowed to serve openly or not. I'm sorry, but your homoerotic shower fantasies are not a good enough reason to deny someone equal rights.
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    Republicans block bill to lift military gay ban

    WASHINGTON Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked legislation that would have repealed the law banning gays from serving openly in the military. The partisan vote was a defeat for Senate Democrats and gay rights advocates, who saw the bill as their last chance before November's elections to overturn the law known as "don't ask, don't tell."
    With the 56-43 vote, Democrats fell short of the 60 votes needed to advance the legislation. It also would have authorized $726 billion in defense spending including a pay raise for troops.
    Senate Democrats attached the repeal provision to the defense bill in the hopes that Republicans would hesitate to vote against legislation that included popular defense programs. But GOP legislators opposed the bill anyway, thwarting a key part of the Democrats' legislative agenda.
    Now, gay rights advocates say they worry they have lost a crucial opportunity to change the law. If Democrats lose seats in the upcoming elections this fall, repealing the ban could prove even more difficult if not impossible next
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    Republicans block bill to lift military gay ban - Yahoo! News
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Dav, you where referring to the DREAM act? It was not, at this time, added to the bill from my reading. It's actually an interesting topic in it's own right and I am going to have to start a poll to talk about that one I think.
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    Re: Republicans block bill to lift military gay ban

    I'm surprised no one posted something about this sooner. It's even in Canadian news (which is weird).

    It's unfortunate because there were at least several Republicans who were in favour of the repeal, but in the end they towed the party line. The DADT issue aside, I think that demonstrates a failure of responsibility to one's constituents.

    Anyway, as for the topic itself, can't say I'm surprised. Most of NATO has repealed their equivalents of DADT, but the social right wing in the U.S. stubbornly holds on. I am not that worried about the future; it will definitely be repealed. I just figured that now was a good a time as any.

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