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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    So, that proves your lie about the private showers in the barracks?

    Is this the best you can do?

    Please, tell us, that you have more to offer than this.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    So, that proves your lie about the private showers in the barracks?

    Is this the best you can do?

    Please, tell us, that you have more to offer than this.
    Um...yes. It proves what I stated. What? Couldn't be bothered to read? I'll give ya a hint. Second link.

    A couple excerpts...

    LCR also produced evidence demonstrating that Defendants routinely delayed the discharge of servicemembers suspected of violating the Act's provisions until after they had completed their overseas deployments. In other words, if Defendants began an investigation of a servicemember suspected of violating the Act, the investigation would be suspended if the subject received deployment orders; not until he or she returned from combat – assuming this occurred, of course – would the investigation be completed and the servicemember discharged if found to have violated the Act.
    Professor Aaron Belkin confirmed this evidence in his testimony; his research into military architecture revealed that apart from basic training sites and service academies where there are open showers, servicemembers usually have access to single stall showers. (Trial Tr. 617:21-619:1, July 15, 2010.) According to Professor Belkin, "the army, in recent years, has implemented something called the one-plus-one barracks design standard.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Um...yes. It proves what I stated. What? Couldn't be bothered to read? I'll give ya a hint. Second link.

    A couple excerpts...





    Next.
    Oh, wait! The Article mistakenly confused DADT, with the defense directive that bans gays from serving in the military, openly, or otherwise.

    Too bad, so sad. Obviously, the facts aren't in your favor.

    This whole shower thing is simply rediculous. SOme barracks have stalls, some barracks have open bays, I haven't seen barracks that have both. That being said, there are no barracks that have males and females sharing showers, regardless of the configuration; hence, gays and straights can't be forced to share billets; per the commandant of the Marine Corps.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    It failed boys and girls (if it still okay to call people by those term) get over it and move on. Unless your a gay person in the Military and in that case just shut up and do you job and keep you thoughts, proclivities and your hands to yourself and you'll be fine.

    But then there is that Judges ruling and we have to wait to see what the Supreme Court finally Rules.

    In the mean time we are not going to have any affect on the question and I don't care on a personal level.

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    In the mean time we are not going to have any affect on the question and I don't care on a personal level.
    You mean all this furious and heated posting on DADT isn't going to change anything? NO WAI!

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

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    I told you DD I will not respond to your personal attacks anymore...I am debating the people here that have a point to make and I don't have time for your nonsense.............You can keep attacking but you won't get a response...............Have a nice evening.............
    Funny....you call it "nonsense" and I basically just posted your own words from your previous thread.....LOL....you are correct Navy...your words are nonsense and made no point, other than to be another of a string of Navy Pride anti-gay hatred spewing.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

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    Your approach to allowing gays to serve in the military, will only further inhibit their ability to do so. Keep thinking broad minded.
    Oh bull****. I'm sure that it's just your concern for their equal protection under the law that makes you support DADT. Yes, I totally believe you that you're against repeal because it simply doesn't go far enough. Do you really think that this ruse is fooling anyone?
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It failed boys and girls (if it still okay to call people by those term) get over it and move on. Unless your a gay person in the Military and in that case just shut up and do you job and keep you thoughts, proclivities and your hands to yourself and you'll be fine.

    But then there is that Judges ruling and we have to wait to see what the Supreme Court finally Rules.

    In the mean time we are not going to have any affect on the question and I don't care on a personal level.
    You conservatives should be happy and should be drumming up this topic everywhere. It has played perfectly into your hands. Obama and the Congressional Democrats waited until the last possible minute to try to pass this legislation and when it was clear it was going to fail, they had Reid try to make a political scene out of it. Only nobody was fooled and it backfired. Now gay rights advocates are hazing Obama at his own fundraisers and he has completely marginalized one of his most loyal voting blocks. It doesn't matter what we do now, this is the closest we will ever come to repealing this policy and now it will porbably take the better part of another decade before this policy is finally overturned. The worst part is that if it is overturned, it will be the courts that do it, when this is a policy that everyone wants to see overturned by Congress.

    Obama ****ed this up. The only way we would have a dream of repealing this now is if the Pentagon review came back with glowing support for repeal. That is not likely to happen and it was irresponsible of the Democrats to ever allow such a review to take place to begin with. Obama played politics and lost and its the gay soldiers who are going to suffer the most.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You conservatives should be happy and should be drumming up this topic everywhere. It has played perfectly into your hands. Obama and the Congressional Democrats waited until the last possible minute to try to pass this legislation and when it was clear it was going to fail, they had Reid try to make a political scene out of it. Only nobody was fooled and it backfired. Now gay rights advocates are hazing Obama at his own fundraisers and he has completely marginalized one of his most loyal voting blocks. It doesn't matter what we do now, this is the closest we will ever come to repealing this policy and now it will porbably take the better part of another decade before this policy is finally overturned. The worst part is that if it is overturned, it will be the courts that do it, when this is a policy that everyone wants to see overturned by Congress.

    Obama ****ed this up. The only way we would have a dream of repealing this now is if the Pentagon review came back with glowing support for repeal. That is not likely to happen and it was irresponsible of the Democrats to ever allow such a review to take place to begin with. Obama played politics and lost and its the gay soldiers who are going to suffer the most.
    lol keep dreaming. It never had a chance to pass the Senate before today no matter when they presented it thats why they never did even though they had the majority for 4 years.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    lol keep dreaming. It never had a chance to pass the Senate before today no matter when they presented it thats why they never did even though they had the majority for 4 years.
    Dude, it was fillibustered. They had 56 votes. What reality are you living in?

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