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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually, HIV is bloodborn. You need an open sore in order for it to transmit. Saliva is caustic to the virus. The CDC has established estimates on this. They say per 10,000 exposures to an infected source of receptive anal sex, approximately 200 will be infected. Whereas per 10,000 exposures to an iinfected source of oral sex, approximately 1 will be infected.

    If you don't have any open sores in your mouth, it is extremely unlikely that you will contract HIV from giving or recieiving oral sex.

    It needs a wet orfice like the mouth, vagina or anus to cultivate.......That is why a straight man engaged in straight sex with a condom is less likely to catch AIDS then anyone else...............
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It needs a wet orfice like the mouth, vagina or anus to cultivate.......That is why a straight man engaged in straight sex with a condom is less likely to catch AIDS then anyone else...............
    No.... it needs access to the bloodstream. That's it. You could rub HIV all over someone's twat and as long as there aren't any open sores/cuts/scratches/etc, it isn't going to enter the bloodstream and infect them. And even if it DOES enter the bloodstream, there's a good chance the body will fight it off.

    And actually, the people less likely to catch the virus (who are sexually active) are lesbians.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    So is the penis.
    It has more functions then that and I think you know that.....The anus only has one function............
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so what is it? are young gay men just incredibly stupid or what? given the fact that the HIV rate among gays is much higher than average, why risk unprotected sex?
    Fatalism. A lot of gay men think that they are going to get the disease no matter what they do so they seek it out in order to get it over with. There use to be bugger parties where people would deliberately get infected.

    Some gay men like the thrill. To them it is a game of life and death. It adds to the sexual excitement.

    Others are just poorly educated about the disease and what they can do to prevent it. Many went to schools where they were taught that condoms are completely ineffective at preventing the disease. I was one of those.

    And yes, some guys just get caught up in the heat of the moment and think with their dick and not with their head. I unfortunately have found myself in that postion and it is no fun having to wait 8 weeks to get tested and then going back to get retested every 3 months to make sure you are not.

    It's dangerous and it is much, much better if you are in a long term, committed relationshiip, but those are hard to come by in the current political climate.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It has more functions then that and I think you know that.....The anus only has one function............
    You mean body parts can serve more than one purpose? Whodathunkit?

    Given the prevalence of anal sex, I think we've found a secondary use for the anus.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    at the moment none thatn God and that is the way I want it...........
    But its ok for you to run around and talk about boinking somebody else's wife while her husband is out serving our country?

    Sounds like a double standard to me.

    Why is ok for you to brag about your sexual deviancy and yet gay people can't talk about their sex lives because that they way you want it?
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No.... it needs access to the bloodstream. That's it. You could rub HIV all over someone's twat and as long as there aren't any open sores/cuts/scratches/etc, it isn't going to enter the bloodstream and infect them.
    not entirely correct. even though access is slower, HIV can enter the body through mucus membranes. so don't get any HIV jism in your eyes or up your nose either.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It needs a wet orfice like the mouth, vagina or anus to cultivate.......That is why a straight man engaged in straight sex with a condom is less likely to catch AIDS then anyone else...............
    I'm sorry Navy, but that is not correct. HIV can only exist in blood, semen, and vaginal fluids. It cannot survive in saliva or urine.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That, unfortunately, is true. The introduction of antivirals have lead to skyrocketing unprotected sex rates among the urban homosexual population.

    But my point still stands. You can selectively take a sample anywhere and make it show a segment of the population has significantly lower life expectancy. However, a gay man in backwoods Nebraska probably would have a much higher life expectancy than one in San Fransisco California simply because the primary behaviors that lead to lowered life expectancy are promiscuity and unprotected anal sex not being gay.


    I did not make that up...I think gay groups acknowledge that gay men have a a shorter life expectancy then straight men....
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It's dangerous and it is much, much better if you are in a long term, committed relationshiip, but those are hard to come by in the current political climate.
    I beg to differ. It may be hard (damn near impossible) to get married but that shouldn't stop gays from being in long term committed relationships. I know many hetero couples who have been in long term relationships for years with getting married. Claiming that long term gay relationships are hard to come by due to the political climate strikes me as a bull**** copout excuse. IMHO
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