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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

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    .Like I said tha anus is designed to export body waste..............
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

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    All these comedians out of work and then there is you..a little advice........don't quit you day job..............

    Way to add something of substance to the debate by attacking another member.........sad............
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually, HIV is bloodborn. You need an open sore in order for it to transmit. Saliva is caustic to the virus. The CDC has established estimates on this. They say per 10,000 exposures to an infected source of receptive anal sex, approximately 200 will be infected. Whereas per 10,000 exposures to an iinfected source of oral sex, approximately 1 will be infected.

    If you don't have any open sores in your mouth, it is extremely unlikely that you will contract HIV from giving or recieiving oral sex.
    since HIV is still pretty much a death sentence, I don't think it would be worth the risk.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    since HIV is still pretty much a death sentence, I don't think it would be worth the risk.
    HIV doesn't always = AIDS. and it's really not so much a death sentence anymore. at least not in the short term.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Those statistics are based on urban centers in the industrialized world in the 90's before the advent of many of the most effective antiviral treatments for HIV.

    And if you want to be technical, they measure the life expectancy of people infected with HIV, not gays. I could take a sample of people in Uganda and argue that black women have a life expectancy of 10-20 years less. It doesn't make it true.
    actually your wrong...................It was that way when AIDS was at its height but now with ways to combat it gay young men are going back to their old ways of unprotected sex and daisy chains in bath houses in the Peoples Republic of San francisco snd Seattle............
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    since HIV is still pretty much a death sentence, I don't think it would be worth the risk.
    It isn't a death sentence anymore, but your life is pretty ****ed up. You have to go get your blood drawn once a week and you have to take antiviral meds with some rather unpleasant side effects. That aside, modern antivirals cause the virus to be pushed so far into remission that it can't be detected. Unfortunately, the moment someone stops taking their antivirals, the disease comes back in full force. So basically your medication becomes your lifeline.

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    actually your wrong...................It was that way when AIDS was at its height but now with ways to combat it gay young men are going back to their old ways of unprotected sex and daisy chains in bath houses in the Peoples Republic of San francisco snd Seattle............
    That, unfortunately, is true. The introduction of antivirals have lead to skyrocketing unprotected sex rates among the urban homosexual population.

    But my point still stands. You can selectively take a sample anywhere and make it show a segment of the population has significantly lower life expectancy. However, a gay man in backwoods Nebraska probably would have a much higher life expectancy than one in San Fransisco California simply because the primary behaviors that lead to lowered life expectancy are promiscuity and unprotected anal sex not being gay.
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I would assume they're as truthful as your military dudes are going to be with the Pentagon survey regarding DADT.

    As for refuting your latter statement, I have no interest in refuting it since it is irrelevant.
    the survey being given is a whole different ball game.It does not refer to ones personal beahvior........
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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    the survey being given is a whole different ball game.It does not refer to ones personal beahvior........
    Really doesn't matter. Either you believe the people surveyed are being truthful, or not. Just because you don't like the results of a survey doesn't mean the participants were lying.

    Since nearly 40% of heterosexuals surveyed said they engaged in anal sex, you think they're lying too? With what motivation?

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    Re: 'Don't ask, don't tell' repeal in doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That, unfortunately, is true. The introduction of antivirals have lead to skyrocketing unprotected sex rates among the urban homosexual population.
    so what is it? are young gay men just incredibly stupid or what? given the fact that the HIV rate among gays is much higher than average, why risk unprotected sex?
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