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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, this is going to end up helping the Republican nominee by siphoning off votes of those who are more moderate Republicans from the Democrat. In a two way race, I would call it close, but in a three way race, the GOP wins by a landslide.
    Actually, it will likely split the Republican ticket since Republicans wouldn't have voted for a Democrat anyway. Otherwise, moderate Republicans would probably have stayed home and not voted at all, but now they have someone they can vote for. They just have to remember how to spell her name is all. LOL

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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The people haven't voted in a general election yet. She isn't undermining anyone.
    Yeah, that's a line... NO ONE is buying. She ran for the GOP Nomination, she lost, now instead of making way for the choice of her party, she's hurting the GOP Candidates chances by stealing votes from him.

    Spin it however you like Jallman...
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, this is going to end up helping the Republican nominee by siphoning off votes of those who are more moderate Republicans from the Democrat. In a two way race, I would call it close, but in a three way race, the GOP wins by a landslide.
    This is what no one pays attention to your political views and analysis, it's based on... nothing.
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    For a guy criticizing entitlement, you seem to feel pretty entitled to the compliance of these politicians..
    Explain how those two relate in any way.
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This is what no one pays attention to your political views and analysis, it's based on... nothing.
    Ah, nothing like a personal attack instead of responding to the question with an intelligent answer. Now how about an honest answer that addresses what I posted instead of the personal attack you posted? Do you have it in you? Let's find out. BTW, I did not report your post because I think you can do better. Will you, or are you going to prove me wrong?
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Explain how those two relate in any way.
    I agree with texmaster again. Stop asking reasonable questions, you're supposed to be a kook.

    I was just reading that Murkowski might actually siphon votes off the Democratic candidate as well, supposedly based on some polling of each candidate against eachother. It sounds like this will be an interesting race. Being Alaska, it's also WAY easier to run a write-in campaign because the media area you need to cover is so small. It really is conceivable for someone to win via write-ins up there. (although I don't expect it in this case.)
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, this is going to end up helping the Republican nominee by siphoning off votes of those who are more moderate Republicans from the Democrat. In a two way race, I would call it close, but in a three way race, the GOP wins by a landslide.
    Your analysis fails on three fronts:

    1. Historically, in a two party Race, when faced with a Choice between three Candidates, the one whom is ideologically alone (i.e. in this case the Democrat) benefits. Case in Point, 1992. Perot syphoned votes from Bush leading many to believe he cost him the election.

    2. That "Moderate" Republicans would vote for the Democrat instead of Mr. Miller. You're implication is that Moderates only vote for liberals.

    3. You're vested in this failed notion that Conservative Candidates cannot win, and that we must embrace the Olympia Snowes, Susan Collins and the like to make a difference.

    And feel free to report my other post sir. It wasn't a personal attack, it was a dismissing of your political reasoning. There is a difference.
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Your analysis fails on three fronts:

    1. Historically, in a two party Race, when faced with a Choice between three Candidates, the one whom is ideologically alone (i.e. in this case the Democrat) benefits. Case in Point, 1992. Perot syphoned votes from Bush leading many to believe he cost him the election.

    2. That "Moderate" Republicans would vote for the Democrat instead of Mr. Miller. You're implication is that Moderates only vote for liberals.

    3. You're vested in this failed notion that Conservative Candidates cannot win, and that we must embrace the Olympia Snowes, Susan Collins and the like to make a difference.

    And feel free to report my other post sir. It wasn't a personal attack, it was a dismissing of your political reasoning. There is a difference.
    This is what no one pays attention to your political views and analysis, it's based on... nothing.
    That was your post. Sure looks like a personal attack from here. But thank you for reposting in an intelligent manner.

    As for your 3 points, I disagree in that moderate Republicans are a little frightened of Miller, and would have voted for the Democrat on that basis. The Democrat in the race is not a Liberal, but what would be a blue-dog who would frequently vote against the party. My contention is that he would be seen as an acceptable alternative. With Murkowski in the race as a write in, she takes those votes, and denies them to McAdams, thus securing victory for Miller, although Miller would most likely win in either case. The 3 way makes it even more likely.
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That was your post. Sure looks like a personal attack from here. But thank you for reposting in an intelligent manner.

    As for your 3 points, I disagree in that moderate Republicans are a little frightened of Miller, and would have voted for the Democrat on that basis. The Democrat in the race is not a Liberal, but what would be a blue-dog who would frequently vote against the party. My contention is that he would be seen as an acceptable alternative. With Murkowski in the race as a write in, she takes those votes, and denies them to McAdams, thus securing victory for Miller, although Miller would most likely win in either case. The 3 way makes it even more likely.

    She's a very left leaning Republican:

    Political positions

    Murkowski is considered a moderate Republican. She is generally pro-choice on abortion and supports embryonic stem cell research. She is also a member of the Republican Majority For Choice, Republicans For Choice, and The Wish List (Women in the Senate and House), a group of pro-choice women Republicans. She was one of ten Republican Senators who refused to commit to Bill Frist's "nuclear option" to end judicial filibusters, and she supported H.R. 810, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act, which would have permitted the Secretary of Health and Human Services to support taxpayer-funded research on embryonic stem cells. Congress passed the bill, but President George W. Bush vetoed it.
    [edit]Healthcare
    Murkowski voted with Democrats and moderate Republicans on H.R. 976, which called for the expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide coverage for additional uninsured children.[9] That bill passed both the House and the Senate, but was vetoed by President Bush. She supports health care reforms in her native state as well, largely because health care costs for Alaskans are up to 70% higher than costs in the contiguous United States.
    [edit]Hate Crimes Bill
    Murkowski was one of five Republican senators who voted with Democrats for the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act.[10]
    [edit]Abortion
    On abortion, Murkowski has a "mixed record" rating (50%) from the National Right to Life Committee, and a pro-life rating (14%) from the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL).[11]
    Lisa Murkowski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Which leads one to assume to be a moderate, one must be rather liberal. I find that, interesting. Also, the reality is, she lost, she knows GOP Voters will vote for her, that takes votes from Miller. Not McAdams.

    That's how she's betraying her party, for personal reasons.


    Also, get thicker skin Dan or report me. I wasn't attacking you, I dismissed you.
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    Re: Sen. Lisa Murkowski mounting write-in bid for Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    She's a very left leaning Republican:


    Lisa Murkowski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Which leads one to assume to be a moderate, one must be rather liberal. I find that, interesting. Also, the reality is, she lost, she knows GOP Voters will vote for her, that takes votes from Miller. Not McAdams.

    That's how she's betraying her party, for personal reasons.


    Also, get thicker skin Dan or report me. I wasn't attacking you, I dismissed you.
    Sure you were. You can call it dismissal all you want, but that is just cloaking the attack inside another word, such as "dismissing", so you can say it was not an attack. As for your "nobody listens to me" rant (the attack itself), my almost 9,000 thanks, some of them from such members as jamesrage, councilman, and others on the right, all disagree with you.
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