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    Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing The Arizona lawman's No. 2 man and other top officials are accused of using the anti-corruption unit to conduct politically motivated investigations and to surveil campaign rivals. - Los

    Reporting from Denver — Top officials in the office of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio used its anti-corruption unit to conduct politically motivated investigations, misled the public about a campaign fund that helped Arpaio win reelection and surveilled the Arizona lawman's campaign rivals, according to an internal memo from a high-ranking officer.

    Curious, not a jab, but will Joe still have the same support if the prove there is proof of the above allegations? Man is innocent until proven guiltly?
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Those accusations him are nothing new. When you do not coddle inmates and are tough on illegals the pro-criminals out there will seek any means necessary including lying to try to bring him down. The only way that man will stop being sheriff is if the voters stop voting for him or he gets too old to work and retires. Although once the pro-criminals realize that bogus accusations of intimidation and rights violations against him do not work I suspect they will try to use his age against him, say he is too old to be sheriff, and try to pass age restrictions of certian elected offices and so on.
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Actually, it is his second in command that came under fire. Yes, I know that the Sheriff is responsible for the action of his staff. I am in a wait and see approuch on this. If true and Joe was involved or knew, my respect/opinon of him would definately change. If not true, then am curious of the motivation behind the memo.

    It amazes me that two of the Maricopa county supervisor (Wilcox, ?), have come out wanting the FBI to investigate to ensure the air is cleared. In the past, when Wilcox came under fire (destroying historical house, finance questions?), there was no need for any real investigatiion. IMO, I hope we can get a new group of supervisors for Maricopa county. IMO, Wilcox does not serve the whole county well.
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Those accusations him are nothing new. When you do not coddle inmates and are tough on illegals the pro-criminals out there will seek any means necessary including lying to try to bring him down. The only way that man will stop being sheriff is if the voters stop voting for him or he gets too old to work and retires. Although once the pro-criminals realize that bogus accusations of intimidation and rights violations against him do not work I suspect they will try to use his age against him, say he is too old to be sheriff, and try to pass age restrictions of certian elected offices and so on.
    James, honest question not a jab, if his actions lead to criminal convictions, are those support this man coddling a criminal?
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing The Arizona lawman's No. 2 man and other top officials are accused of using the anti-corruption unit to conduct politically motivated investigations and to surveil campaign rivals. - Los

    Reporting from Denver — Top officials in the office of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio used its anti-corruption unit to conduct politically motivated investigations, misled the public about a campaign fund that helped Arpaio win reelection and surveilled the Arizona lawman's campaign rivals, according to an internal memo from a high-ranking officer.

    Curious, not a jab, but will Joe still have the same support if the prove there is proof of the above allegations? Man is innocent until proven guiltly?
    It's the tired old Liberal line of attack. Can't beat the person in elections, can't stop him with negative media... investigate and start throwing out wild charges on the flimsiest of data.

    Is it possible someone, somewhere in that office did somethings wrong? Sure. Doesn't mean HE knew about it, but that doesn't matter in this kind of investigation. They might find a clerk was downloading child porn and the headlines would read "Sheriff Arpaio condones child porno".
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's the tired old Liberal line of attack. Can't beat the person in elections, can't stop him with negative media... investigate and start throwing out wild charges on the flimsiest of data.

    Is it possible someone, somewhere in that office did somethings wrong? Sure. Doesn't mean HE knew about it, but that doesn't matter in this kind of investigation. They might find a clerk was downloading child porn and the headlines would read "Sheriff Arpaio condones child porno".
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Actually, it is his second in command that came under fire. Yes, I know that the Sheriff is responsible for the action of his staff. I am in a wait and see approuch on this. If true and Joe was involved or knew, my respect/opinon of him would definately change. If not true, then am curious of the motivation behind the memo.

    It amazes me that two of the Maricopa county supervisor (Wilcox, ?), have come out wanting the FBI to investigate to ensure the air is cleared. In the past, when Wilcox came under fire (destroying historical house, finance questions?), there was no need for any real investigatiion. IMO, I hope we can get a new group of supervisors for Maricopa county. IMO, Wilcox does not serve the whole county well.
    I agree with you, in my view Maricopa County elected officials involved in this issue all need to be removed.

    Munnell's motivation is also questionable. Is he like a rat trying to flee a sinking ship? I also question why Joe put Hendershot in power, in hopes that he had a scape goat if his house of cards collapsed? Lastly, does this make Joe look like a puppet and in essense had no power? All curious question.
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    James, honest question not a jab, if his actions lead to criminal convictions, are those support this man coddling a criminal?
    Because Joe does not coddle criminals and is tough on illegals he basically has a target painted on him by every pro-criminal group out there ranging from the pro-illegals who do not want Joe doing his job to the scumbag sympathizers who think inmates should have luxuries . So I have to wonder how legit these accusations and complaints against him or his department are. So I have no reason to believe the accusations against him are true. This is kind of like the little boy who cried wolf.
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    Re: Internal memo accuses Sheriff Arpaio's department of wrongdoing

    MrVicchio;1058991913]It's the tired old Liberal line of attack. Can't beat the person in elections, can't stop him with negative media... investigate and start throwing out wild charges on the flimsiest of data.
    Sorry, there is nothing liberal about AZ. Maricopa County is a bastillon of GOP, Libertarians, Conservatives, and Media. Secondly, the matter was not initiated by the media, it was initiated by high ranking official in his office. The media has tried to present these issues concerning Joe, but he is loved too much by his flock, so to make a story more credible, it has to come from within.

    Is it possible someone, somewhere in that office did somethings wrong? Sure. Doesn't mean HE knew about it, but that doesn't matter in this kind of investigation. They might find a clerk was downloading child porn and the headlines would read "Sheriff Arpaio condones child porno".
    I don't agree, he is loved by too many to get this label by the media. Joe is a media clown, he uses the media to his advantage, so you need something bigger then the media to prosecute this man.

    IMHO I think his power is soooo grand, that the Obama Administration is to chicken to release indictments against him and his cronies because it is too close to the elections and the media would portray Obama as picking on Joe. This is how the beloved conservative media portrayed Obama when Brewer/1070 was sued.

    God I wish we had true politicians that had balls to prosecute wrong doing instead of media clowns and spinless democrats. Sorry had to get that in there, I feel better now.
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