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    States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    When are the idiots in Public Service get their heads out of the nether regions and see the light.

    Raising taxes in a recession is counter productive and only serves to feed the problems.

    Cut the darn spending and cut taxes and the revenues in the States and the Federal Gov, will go up and jobs will start to come back.

    Keep on the Obama out of control spending course and our economy is a dead duck.

    Push to collect online sales tax gathers steam - Business - Personal finance - Tax Tactics - msnbc.com

    With budgets in crisis, enforcement efforts gather steam

    It’s too early to know exactly how much the Nebraska chapter of the March of Dimes raised this week at its annual Signature Chefs Auction in Omaha, but odds are that more than 10 percent of the charity’s proceeds are going straight to the tax man.

    That’s because the March of Dimes went online when it bought about 4,000 T-shirts from a Florida vendor to give to donors during its March for Babies Walk last April. The charity often buys supplies and other materials online, and it also raises money online by selling items at auction — racking up a big tax bill in each case.

    “We didn’t know that,” said Rosemary Opbroek, director of the Nebraska chapter. “We wish the law was different. It is taking money away from helping ... babies.”

    Specifically, it is taking away about $26,000, the amount the State of Nebraska says the March of Dimes owes for unpaid taxes on the April purchase and other online transactions over the past five years.

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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    I find it incredible that this threat has been up for 12 hours and no one has an opinion about this terrible mistake and attempt to control thought, the spread of information, and opposition.
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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Raising taxes in a recession is counter productive and only serves to feed the problems.
    You got that partially right. Raising taxes during a recession that is undergoing high inflation and the completely eliminating those tax dollars from the supply is not necessarily a bad choice.

    Cut the darn spending
    Tell me, how did that work out for the countries that took IMF bailouts? Did their economies expand after or contract? (hint: this ain't a hard question)

    and cut taxes and the revenues in the States and the Federal Gov, will go up and jobs will start to come back.
    Since when was a financial recession the same as every other? What makes you think the same tools which for those will work for a financial recession?

    Keep on the Obama out of control spending course and our economy is a dead duck.
    Well, you must think that IMF bailout packages which mandate massive cuts to spending helped those countries out. Excuse me while I go outside to laugh at your beliefs.
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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Well, I agree that raising taxes during a recession is bad.

    But this situation is *not* the same thing as raising existing taxes or levying NEW taxes.
    They're simply enforcing regulations that have BEEN around.

    Sales taxes or similar levies have always been in place on most online purchases in most states. But they are almost never paid. And with their budgets in crisis, states are more determined than ever to get their share.

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    Under a 1992 Supreme Court ruling, businesses are responsible for collecting sales taxes on every sale they make in a state where they have a “physical nexus.” In other words, if the business has a store, an office or even a single sales rep in your state, it’s supposed to tack the state’s sales tax onto your bill.
    Bottom line: when you are an organization or company - and you deal with MONEY and the sale of products - you MUST be fluid with tax codes or higher someone who IS - and then take their advice.

    If you're a business who doesn't know your legalities and rights you can find yourself OUT of business rather quickly due to 'bad business.' - it's kind of a no-brainer.
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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    When are the idiots in Public Service get their heads out of the nether regions and see the light.

    Raising taxes in a recession is counter productive and only serves to feed the problems.

    Cut the darn spending and cut taxes and the revenues in the States and the Federal Gov, will go up and jobs will start to come back.

    Keep on the Obama out of control spending course and our economy is a dead duck.
    They aren't raising taxes, they're trying to collect taxes they're already owed.
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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I find it incredible that this threat has been up for 12 hours and no one has an opinion about this terrible mistake and attempt to control thought, the spread of information, and opposition.
    I have an opinion. The State of Texas gives a sales tax exemption to all non-profits. I don't know about Nebraska, but the March of Dimes in Houston doesn't pay a cent, if what they are purchasing is going to be used in the every day business of that charity. That's why I think that either Nebraska is a medieval hick backwoods, or that this story just doesn't pass the smell test.

    Blaming Obama doesn't pass the smell test either, since he has absolutely no say on what states do to impose and collect their sales taxes. Therefore, I call hyperpartisan BS on this one. Why even bring him up?
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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well, I agree that raising taxes during a recession is bad.

    But this situation is *not* the same thing as raising existing taxes or levying NEW taxes.
    They're simply enforcing regulations that have BEEN around.



    Bottom line: when you are an organization or company - and you deal with MONEY and the sale of products - you MUST be fluid with tax codes or higher someone who IS - and then take their advice.

    If you're a business who doesn't know your legalities and rights you can find yourself OUT of business rather quickly due to 'bad business.' - it's kind of a no-brainer.
    The real question is whether the t-shirt company from Florida where the shirts came from has a physical presence in Nebraska. According to the Supreme Court ruling you quote, a "physical nexus" must be in the state before sales taxes are due.

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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The real question is whether the t-shirt company from Florida where the shirts came from has a physical presence in Nebraska. According to the Supreme Court ruling you quote, a "physical nexus" must be in the state before sales taxes are due.
    A physical nexus, according to the article, is: "if the business has a store, an office or even a single sales rep in your state, it’s supposed to tack the state’s sales tax onto your bill."

    This is akin to minimum contacts when it comes to issues of litigation - in which merely advertising your business or organization and doing any sort of transaction by approach in any state satisfies this contacts stardard.
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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    A physical nexus, according to the article, is: "if the business has a store, an office or even a single sales rep in your state, it’s supposed to tack the state’s sales tax onto your bill."

    This is akin to minimum contacts when it comes to issues of litigation - in which merely advertising your business or organization and doing any sort of transaction by approach in any state satisfies this contacts stardard.
    No, I think you are wrong. It's my understanding that the company must have a physical presence in the state before sales taxes are due. Physical presence means a brick and mortar building or sales people that work in the state. Advertising is not a physical presence.

    Some businesses I buy from charge sales taxes, like Amazon who has a warehouse here. Others don't because they have no warehouses or stores in the state.

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    Re: States working harder to collect online sales taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have an opinion. The State of Texas gives a sales tax exemption to all non-profits. I don't know about Nebraska, but the March of Dimes in Houston doesn't pay a cent, if what they are purchasing is going to be used in the every day business of that charity. That's why I think that either Nebraska is a medieval hick backwoods, or that this story just doesn't pass the smell test.

    Blaming Obama doesn't pass the smell test either, since he has absolutely no say on what states do to impose and collect their sales taxes. Therefore, I call hyperpartisan BS on this one. Why even bring him up?
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