• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

Boo Radley said:
I don't think so, in the context of which I use it. It boils down to who is better able to contribute the most. Nearly all governments have some form of progressive tax, and they have it for a reason.
Click to expand...

almost all governments are corrupt and wasteful

justifying such idiocy which appeals to the lowest common denominator is hardly a sound argument
 
Boo Radley said:
I don't think so, in the context of which I use it. It boils down to who is better able to contribute the most. Nearly all governments have some form of progressive tax, and they have it for a reason.
Click to expand...
To make your anaology work, you'd have to left that box for your wife... kids... friends... neighbors... the people down the street.. across the bridge...etc.
 
Whovian said:
To make your anaology work, you'd have to left that box for your wife... kids... friends... neighbors... the people down the street.. across the bridge...etc.
Click to expand...

No, not really, but if they needed me, and reason was good enough, it would be fair to ask and I should lift it. The family can be seen aas a smaller version (you know, like running my home finances like the government runs its finanaces).
 
TurtleDude said:
almost all governments are corrupt and wasteful

justifying such idiocy which appeals to the lowest common denominator is hardly a sound argument
Click to expand...

That can be said about almost anything. Private corrporations aren't prue either. Neither are the wealthy, or the poor, or the middle class. All should be held accountable.
 
TurtleDude said:
so how much extra do you give to the government

and what exactly do I get that you do not From the government for paying top 1% tax bills?
Click to expand...

I've already linked for you what you get.

And I pay the tax in my bracket. You should do the same.
 
Boo Radley said:
Will you join me? It takes numbers and not one person. ;)
Click to expand...

Nope, will continue to do what I do, give more to local charities and my church both of which do a better job than the bureaucrats in D.C.
 
Boo Radley said:
No, not really, but if they needed me, and reason was good enough, it would be fair to ask and I should lift it. The family can be seen aas a smaller version (you know, like running my home finances like the government runs its finanaces).
Click to expand...

Dude, honestly... you're really reaching with this one. :blink:
 
Boo Radley said:
That can be said about almost anything. Private corrporations aren't prue either. Neither are the wealthy, or the poor, or the middle class. All should be held accountable.
Click to expand...

yeah but I don't have to deal with a corporation I believe is wasteful or corrupt

no one should be able to vote up the taxes on others without suffering a similar hike themselves
 
Conservative said:
Nope, will continue to do what I do, give more to local charities and my church both of which do a better job than the bureaucrats in D.C.
Click to expand...

but that takes away government power and the ability to punish those who do better than Boo Does
 
TurtleDude said:
yeah but I don't have to deal with a corporation I believe is wasteful or corrupt

no one should be able to vote up the taxes on others without suffering a similar hike themselves
Click to expand...

Don't you? No corroporation that is corrupt effects you? I find that hard to believe.
 
Whovian said:
Dude, honestly... you're really reaching with this one. :blink:
Click to expand...

If you say so, but I don't think I am. Why do you suppose governments nearly all use a progressive tax?
 
Boo Radley said:
Don't you? No corroporation that is corrupt effects you? I find that hard to believe.
Click to expand...

corporations don't jail people or shoot them if they refuse to do business with them
 
Boo Radley said:
If you say so, but I don't think I am. Why do you suppose governments nearly all use a progressive tax?
Click to expand...

because it appeals to the lowest common denominator
there are not enough rich to outvote the parasite classes and the envious wannabees
its an opiate of the masses.
 
TurtleDude said:
but that takes away government power and the ability to punish those who do better than Boo Does
Click to expand...

Amazing that people like Boo have so much faith in the Federal Govt. attacking the current debt of close to 14 trillion dollars and believe that raising the taxes on the top 2% will make a dent. This just shows how naive some individuals are and the quality of the Obama supporter.

Wonder how the 47% of the people that don't pay any Federal Income taxes will vote?
 
TurtleDude said:
corporations don't jail people or shoot them if they refuse to do business with them
Click to expand...

No, they lose their pension, steal your future. ;)

But, you miss the point. Both serve a purpose. Not the same purpose, but a purpose. And both can be corrupt in what they do. Using this as a reason not to have them serve their purpose is silly. Corruption should always be fought and people held accountable, be it business or government, but both play a role in our lives. There's no way they can't.
 
Conservative said:
Amazing that people like Boo have so much faith in the Federal Govt. attacking the current debt of close to 14 trillion dollars and believe that raising the taxes on the top 2% will make a dent. This just shows how naive some individuals are and the quality of the Obama supporter.

Wonder how the 47% of the people that don't pay any Federal Income taxes will vote?
Click to expand...

people like him use soaking the wealthy as an appeal to class envy and to justify buying the votes of the many

when dems get ripped over socialist spending they whine that if the rich are taxed more it all will be paid for.

they never understand that in the long run they are only ruining America because one day the "tax the rich" crap no longer can work as the rich leave or stop paying.
 
Conservative said:
Fact remains people spending money is what drives this economy and creates an environment for creating jobs. There isn't a reputable economist who believes we should raise taxes on anyone during these poor economic times.
Click to expand...

True, but each case is different. You can't automatically assume they'll spend it the the way you want them to.

ricksfolly
 
ricksfolly said:
True, but each case is different. You can't automatically assume they'll spend it the the way you want them to.

ricksfolly
Click to expand...

You don't see a problem with your statement,
You can't automatically assume they'll spend it the the way you want them to
Click to expand...

What gives anyone else the right to tell you how to spend your money as long as you do it legally? That seems to be one of the biggest problems today as more and more believe the govt. rhetoric about people not spending their own money the way the govt. wants them to. It is the people's money first and regardless of how they spend it that creates jobs and benefits the economy.
 
Sometimes people slip and admit that they think they're better fit to decide how people spend their money than the people themselves are.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom