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More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

And you KNOW this how?

because I understand how people work and when people give reasons that are easily disproven as BS then the real reasons tend to be more sinister. ITs fun seeing people who pretend that they understand economics blathering half baked theories that are self contradictory.

its like the gun debate-the left squeals about public safety yet they are really motivated by a desire to disarm honest people which is why their "reasoning" is so specious and full of holes

same here.
 
That is your opinion, so if tax cuts make no real difference "on anything" then why raise them on the people who already pay most of them? If people save, spend, pay down debt, or invest that benefits economic growth something most Obama supporters do not understand. Obama appeals to the lowest common denominator of American society that is being duped by an elite few whose goal is to drastically change America into the failed European socialist model. Ever watch an Obama "rally?" Cannot believe that some people want to be associated with those attendees. Guess some have zero pride in themselves.

Brings in revenue. It's a lot of people contributing a little to add up to a greater whole. It's not ahrd to follow.
 
because I understand how people work and when people give reasons that are easily disproven as BS then the real reasons tend to be more sinister. ITs fun seeing people who pretend that they understand economics blathering half baked theories that are self contradictory.

its like the gun debate-the left squeals about public safety yet they are really motivated by a desire to disarm honest people which is why their "reasoning" is so specious and full of holes

same here.

I see no real understanding from you. I'm sorry, but you can't know someone else. You can only take their argument and either refute it or accept it, of amke up weak **** like telling them what they really mean. :lamo :lamo
 
That is your opinion, so if tax cuts make no real difference "on anything" then why raise them on the people who already pay most of them? If people save, spend, pay down debt, or invest that benefits economic growth something most Obama supporters do not understand. Obama appeals to the lowest common denominator of American society that is being duped by an elite few whose goal is to drastically change America into the failed European socialist model. Ever watch an Obama "rally?" Cannot believe that some people want to be associated with those attendees. Guess some have zero pride in themselves.

its envy that motivates this

I remember arguing with some lamer about the death confiscation tax and after a couple claims that had no basis in fact the guy started whining that it was "unfair" that his parents were lazy and didn't leave him anything and since he inherited nothing, no one else should either. that was the real reason, not his steaming load that somehow my son is going to be hurt because I save and plan for his future.
 
its envy that motivates this

I remember arguing with some lamer about the death confiscation tax and after a couple claims that had no basis in fact the guy started whining that it was "unfair" that his parents were lazy and didn't leave him anything and since he inherited nothing, no one else should either. that was the real reason, not his steaming load that somehow my son is going to be hurt because I save and plan for his future.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
I see no real understanding from you. I'm sorry, but you can't know someone else. You can only take their argument and either refute it or accept it, of amke up weak **** like telling them what they really mean. :lamo :lamo

bottom line, I am a top bracket tax payer. you want to raise my taxes, yet you cannot advance a single credible argument why
 
No. It's just a weak argument dependent on his ability to read minds. I don't think he can.

It is only weak to those who have been brainwashed by the liberal ideology. Reading minds has nothing to do with it as actions speak louder than words and results trump rhetoric. The Obama/Liberal results speak volumes but those results are ignored by his supporters who seem incapable of comprehending the harm he is doing as evidenced by those results.
 
bottom line, I am a top bracket tax payer. you want to raise my taxes, yet you cannot advance a single credible argument why

Really? I seem to recall having clearly shown that it would help with the deficit. And that is my argument. Not a single thing mentioned about anything else. Try again.
 
It is only weak to those who have been brainwashed by the liberal ideology. Reading minds has nothing to do with it as actions speak louder than words and results trump rhetoric. The Obama/Liberal results speak volumes but those results are ignored by his supporters who seem incapable of comprehending the harm he is doing as evidenced by those results.

Says the brainwashed person who keeps repeating sterotypes mindlessly. :lamo :lamo
 
Brings in revenue. It's a lot of people contributing a little to add up to a greater whole. It's not ahrd to follow.

"A lot of people contributing?" You mean the 47% that don't pay any Federal Income taxes? How about the 16 million unemployed Americans that pay little in Federal Income taxes? You seem concerned about how much the top 2% pay but not the millions and millions who pay very little or no Federal Income taxes.
 
Says the brainwashed person who keeps repeating sterotypes mindlessly. :lamo :lamo

I have yet to see you refute any of the facts showing the results of this Administration. When someone posts actual facts, people like you call them sterotypes in order to divert from those facts. Brainwashed individual support the liberal ideology because it makes them feel good and after all feelings mean more than actual results.
 
Really? I seem to recall having clearly shown that it would help with the deficit. And that is my argument. Not a single thing mentioned about anything else. Try again.

No, you haven't shown how it will help the deficit but you have posted Obama talking points while ignoring that none of the Obama economic predictions has been accurate yet for some reason that the prediction that tax increases on the rich will lower the deficit. If Obama cared about the deficit he would have used the TARP repayment to lower it but didn't. Where is your outrage?
 
"A lot of people contributing?" You mean the 47% that don't pay any Federal Income taxes? How about the 16 million unemployed Americans that pay little in Federal Income taxes? You seem concerned about how much the top 2% pay but not the millions and millions who pay very little or no Federal Income taxes.

Because it's the duty of the few, to take care of the many.
 
Really? I seem to recall having clearly shown that it would help with the deficit. And that is my argument. Not a single thing mentioned about anything else. Try again.

1) that is speculation on your part-you assume tax hikes mean more revenue which is a guess on your part

2) you support Obama and his massive spending which is far outpacing what would be supposedly gained by even the massive tax hikes obama wants

3) I can prove tax hikes hurt me and others but you cannot prove they will do any good. that means your argumet is bogus.

4) you have been asked if you are willing to pay the same percentage of taxes on your next dollar as me--if you really believed the BS you spew you would but we all know that you want others to carry the load

5) You have never come close to making a credible argument that "the rich" get any additional benefits from getting taxed more
 
Because it's the duty of the few, to take care of the many.

Not the way I would put it, but I would say then when asked who should do the hard things in life, I would those who can. My wife calls me when there is heavy lifting that needs to be done. So do the kids. Nothing wrong with that as I'm stronger.
 
Not the way I would put it, but I would say then when asked who should do the hard things in life, I would those who can. My wife calls me when there is heavy lifting that needs to be done. So do the kids. Nothing wrong with that as I'm stronger.

from each according from their ability BS again

you confuse volunteering with government coercion
 
Because it's the duty of the few, to take care of the many.

Yep, I see that every day at the state and local level, but liberals believe in a large bloated Federal Govt. doing what the local government should be doing.
 
1) that is speculation on your part-you assume tax hikes mean more revenue which is a guess on your part

2) you support Obama and his massive spending which is far outpacing what would be supposedly gained by even the massive tax hikes obama wants

3) I can prove tax hikes hurt me and others but you cannot prove they will do any good. that means your argumet is bogus.

4) you have been asked if you are willing to pay the same percentage of taxes on your next dollar as me--if you really believed the BS you spew you would but we all know that you want others to carry the load

5) You have never come close to making a credible argument that "the rich" get any additional benefits from getting taxed more

1) certainly a better chance of more revenue.

2) No, I have called for less spending. The difference is where I would cut.

3) No, I don't think you have proven any such thing, and I have supported that it will help with the deficit. I've offered a couple of analysis that say they will.

4) And I have answered, I have no problem with a progressive tax. I don't complain about those who pay less than me or ask they they match me, and I don't care if those who make more than me pay more.

5) I have offered a couple of studies that say so. Why you would call that close to credible is beyond me.
 
from each according from their ability BS again

you confuse volunteering with government coercion

The government has the right to tax. We did not revolt because we didn't believe in this right. We revolted because we didn't have representation. Today we have representation. And what I say applies to both voluneteering and taxes. ;)
 
1) certainly a better chance of more revenue.

2) No, I have called for less spending. The difference is where I would cut.

3) No, I don't think you have proven any such thing, and I have supported that it will help with the deficit. I've offered a couple of analysis that say they will.

4) And I have answered, I have no problem with a progressive tax. I don't complain about those who pay less than me or ask they they match me, and I don't care if those who make more than me pay more.

5) I have offered a couple of studies that say so. Why you would call that close to credible is beyond me.

You spend alot of your time here demanding others pay more taxes.

Unless you are willing to pay as much as those you want to soak even more, you have no position to talk
you certainly use as much government services as I do-and probably more
 
Not the way I would put it, but I would say then when asked who should do the hard things in life, I would those who can. My wife calls me when there is heavy lifting that needs to be done. So do the kids. Nothing wrong with that as I'm stronger.

comparing physical strength to personal wealth is a flawed analogy.
 
You spend alot of your time here demanding others pay more taxes.

Unless you are willing to pay as much as those you want to soak even more, you have no position to talk
you certainly use as much government services as I do-and probably more

That's absurd, but I don't mind my taxes being raised to low the debt. And I still believe in a progressive tax and don't care if those below me don't get their taxes raised. No envey from me. ;)
 
comparing physical strength to personal wealth is a flawed analogy.

I don't think so, in the context of which I use it. It boils down to who is better able to contribute the most. Nearly all governments have some form of progressive tax, and they have it for a reason.
 
That's absurd, but I don't mind my taxes being raised to low the debt. And I still believe in a progressive tax and don't care if those below me don't get their taxes raised. No envey from me. ;)

so how much extra do you give to the government

and what exactly do I get that you do not From the government for paying top 1% tax bills?
 
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