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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    BS-I am pro choice and have reservations about the DP but I am willing to kill if I have to and have in the past. a convict duly convicted of a capital crime is not innocent life. Its entirely possible to be pro death penalty and anti abortion
    Not without being hypocritical it isn't.
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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    BS-I am pro choice and have reservations about the DP but I am willing to kill if I have to and have in the past. a convict duly convicted of a capital crime is not innocent life. Its entirely possible to be pro death penalty and anti abortion
    This assumes the verdict is correct, whihc we know has not always been the case. So, if you wrongly kill an innocnet person, as a matter of flaws in the system, how many mistakes are acceptable before you oppose the use?

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    This assumes the verdict is correct, whihc we know has not always been the case. So, if you wrongly kill an innocnet person, as a matter of flaws in the system, how many mistakes are acceptable before you oppose the use?
    Don't pay attention to the little things, like the details.......
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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Funny...its worked great in this country for years. It wasn't until you had the great Reagan corporate welfare handout and the Bush deregulation that this country started to really struggle.

    Remember when people could actually buy a home in this country? Remember when it was a luxury for both parents to work, not a necessity?

    Don't know how old you are....but it was before Reagan destroyed our manufacturing base and the Reagan/Bush policies rewarded compnaies for shipping good paying goods overseas.
    Yeah, life in the U.S. under Carter was a dream. Speaking of owning a home, almost no one could afford one during the Carter years because the interest rate was over 15%. I was able to buy my first house after Reagan's policies finally made home ownership possible.

    You really believe lower taxes don't increase tax revenues??? It was a fact under Reagan:

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    BS-I am pro choice and have reservations about the DP but I am willing to kill if I have to and have in the past. a convict duly convicted of a capital crime is not innocent life. Its entirely possible to be pro death penalty and anti abortion
    Absolutely.

    The baby-killers want to pretend that convicted murders didn't earn their fate, and yet they want to allow the execution of millions of babies who haven't committed a crime or been subjected to a trial and conviction.

    Yet they call the people who don't want babies murdered the hypocrites.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Absolutely.

    The baby-killers want to pretend that convicted murders didn't earn their fate, and yet they want to allow the execution of millions of babies who haven't committed a crime or been subjected to a trial and conviction.

    Yet they call the people who don't want babies murdered the hypocrites.
    There are lot's of hypocrites in the world, and they can be found in all political stripes. But, if you're pro life, you should be against both. If you feel a life can be justifiably taken, then it's all about the justification. That opens the door for arguments other than crminals.

    Besides, there's still the real possibility we'll kill someone who wasn't actually guilty. Keep that in mind.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There are lot's of hypocrites in the world, and they can be found in all political stripes. But, if you're pro life, you should be against both. If you feel a life can be justifiably taken, then it's all about the justification. That opens the door for arguments other than crminals.

    Besides, there's still the real possibility we'll kill someone who wasn't actually guilty. Keep that in mind.
    So you don't believe in self-defense ?? You wouldn't kill someone that was about to kill you or a loved one ??

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    So you don't believe in self-defense ?? You wouldn't kill someone that was about to kill you or a loved one ??
    You're really making a leap here. No where have I expressed MY beliefs. But if you hold a belief, that life should not be taken, then you hold it and live by it, or admit you were weak and unable to do so. I have no problem admitting my human fralities.

    However, if you say we can kill, it just depends on the reasoning we use, then the debate is what reasoning works for you. And that makes you not PRO-LIFE, but someone who will take a life is the reasoning is good enough for you. That opens the door to argue there is might be a reson to end ANY life, if I can argue a justification.

    Follow me?

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're really making a leap here. No where have I expressed MY beliefs. But if you hold a belief, that life should not be taken, then you hold it and live by it, or admit you were weak and unable to do so. I have no problem admitting my human fralities.

    However, if you say we can kill, it just depends on the reasoning we use, then the debate is what reasoning works for you. And that makes you not PRO-LIFE, but someone who will take a life is the reasoning is good enough for you. That opens the door to argue there is might be a reson to end ANY life, if I can argue a justification.

    Follow me?
    You are right... I am not pro-life. Never have been. So there is no hypocrisy on my part.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    They've backed the Obama-Pelosi-Reid Weapons of Economic Destruction, and now think the people are stupid enough to buy this?

    Well, are they not stupid enough? We seem to witness stupidity over and over. You vote for the guy you dislike the least. In the end, the wealthy fund campaigns. The Middle Class votes. With both at odds, politicians are always going to lean towards the cash cow. In other words, the average Middle Class American can vote for whatever change he/she wants, but the politician they elect belongs to those who fund the campaign. Power is in the check book, not the every other year 10 second vote.
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