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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ofcourse it doesn't, but when you have a group like this partnering with Unions, and other Marxist outlets like Apollo project to write the stimulus bill, and when you have language on their own website that is in line with every bit of wealth redistribution transformation BS coming out of the WH, then yes sir, they are indeed cowardly Marxists.


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    J, unions are almost as old as the country, and they don't equal marxism. Many union memebers are as American as it gets. Frankly, all these labels are today is just an attempt to paint a foe they can't reason against or make a sound argunment against. it's not only lame, but unoriginal. This tactic is older than unions.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm sorry, but nothing there is socialism. Can I recommend a good dictinary for you? or perhaps a history book?
    "Shared Prosperity" is all I need to hear. Like "Social Justice", it's code for people who want to buy votes with my prosperity, but thanks for the offer.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    ...Just because some are concerned about everyone doesn't mean they are socailist.
    Correct. Concern about everyone does not = socialist. Wanting to force everyone to pool all their resources and have a command & control centralized government to distribute said resources is socialist. You are either not being honest with us, or you are not being honest with yourself.
    Last edited by FederalRepublic; 10-19-10 at 01:19 PM.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Correct. Concern about everyone does not = socialist. Wanting to force everyone to pool all their resources and have a command & control centralized government to distribute said resources is socialist. You are either not being honest with us, or you are not being honest with yourself.
    No one's being any more forced then they ever were. There is no centralized control of resources. business is still indeendent and individuals are still as free as they ever were. Nothing new is going on.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    "Shared Prosperity" is all I need to hear. Like "Social Justice", it's code for people who want to buy votes with my prosperity, but thanks for the offer.
    if you listen to key words instead of seeking meaning, you will always be easy to fool.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, unions are almost as old as the country, and they don't equal marxism. Many union memebers are as American as it gets. Frankly, all these labels are today is just an attempt to paint a foe they can't reason against or make a sound argunment against. it's not only lame, but unoriginal. This tactic is older than unions.

    If you are making the case that Unions are at the same point that they were at their inception in American culture, then you are not being honest in this debate. Unions resemble little of what they were conceived to do in the beginning.


    No one's being any more forced then they ever were.
    Sure they are, and the health care law is a prime example.

    There is no centralized control of resources.
    Yes there is. And examples are surprisingly out in the open.

    business is still indeendent and individuals are still as free as they ever were. Nothing new is going on.
    Speak to the share holders of GM and Chrysler stock before the bailouts, and then come back and say that....Obama has been attacking contract law from the start.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Unions resemble little of what they were conceived to do in the beginning.

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    One could say the same thing about almost every institution...

    The issue is, keeping the idiots at the top in check so they aren't being Union leader strictly for their own benefit...

    (Some of them make a fair bit of coin )

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you are making the case that Unions are at the same point that they were at their inception in American culture, then you are not being honest in this debate. Unions resemble little of what they were conceived to do in the beginning.
    Nothing is exactly the same, nor have I claimed they are. But that doesn't make them unAmerican either.

    Sure they are, and the health care law is a prime example.
    No they aren't. And no, it isn't. You can pay the tax. You can get your own insurance. You can be responsible. Just like driving without insurance, needing medicial care without insurance and the ability to pay, you hurt others, passing your cost on to others. But, you are not forced any more than you have been. This concept is not new.


    Yes there is. And examples are surprisingly out in the open.
    No there isn't. Because the biased paraniod mind sees demons eveywhere doesn't mean they are actually there.


    Speak to the share holders of GM and Chrysler stock before the bailouts, and then come back and say that....Obama has been attacking contract law from the start.

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    Ummmm, . . . those people came to him hat in hand. They didn't have to do or take anything.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    no one's forced to do anything, individuals are as free as they ever were, nothing new is going on

    Buy Insurance or Go to Jail? - The Note

    http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Polit...old_letter.pdf

    LOL!

    have you noticed the complete lack of thought which characterizes the expressions of the empty headed obamite remnant lately?

    ie, where have all the SERIOUS apologists gone?

    what remains is pathetic

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no one's forced to do anything, individuals are as free as they ever were, nothing new is going on

    Buy Insurance or Go to Jail? - The Note

    http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Polit...old_letter.pdf

    LOL!

    have you noticed the complete lack of thought which characterizes the expressions of the empty headed obamite remnant lately?

    ie, where have all the SERIOUS apologists gone?

    what remains is pathetic
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