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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    it's MOOT, mindlessly and demeaningly so

    it's a distinction only seen by the microscopic mind

    and its impetus, transparently, is the pettiest and most self absorbed need to be right, personally, about essentially nothing

    i've seen it from certain sources now a thousand times and, despite its good natured affability, it's stomach turning

    carry on

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    it's MOOT, mindlessly and demeaningly so

    it's a distinction only seen by the microscopic mind

    and its impetus, transparently, is the pettiest and most self absorbed need to be right, personally, about essentially nothing

    i've seen it from certain sources now a thousand times and, despite its good natured affability, it's stomach turning

    carry on
    So, factually, you have nothing, so this is your response. Gotcha.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If it is a false reading of histroy, then credibility matters. You can't honestly show what you claim.
    Yep. I can.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Yep. I can.
    Feel free to do so then.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Hey now... the dems up for election have no choice but to move away from WH because their in between barack and a hard place...


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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you have really been reading, I argue for cutting spending and raising taxes. That, if the deficit really matters to you, should be what you call for as well. Anything less simply won't do the job.
    I'm completely for an ACROSS THE BOARD temporary tax increase whose revenue goes specifically to paying down the debt as long as it is directly tied to across the board spending cuts. If the cuts don't happen, or if "emergency spending" makes the cuts worthless, then the tax goes away and money taken is returned.

    As I've said elsewhere, I think we should put forward a national 2% sales tax on all non-store bought food or medicine whose revenue is used SOLELY for paying down the debt. It should be tied to a reduction in the budget. Namely that the budget should be adjusted yearly for inflation and then reduced by 3 to 5%. As long as the budget is adhered to and no additional emergency spending occurs then the following year the 2% sales tax remains. If the govenrment fails to reduce the budget or stay under budget then the following year the 2% sales tax goes away and can not return until the Government has been on budget for a full year.

    Once the debt is completely paid off the tax would automatically be removed from the books, with a caveat that it can NOT be extended. If politicians want to try to keep the tax they'd have to pass a whole new law. If the government refuses to keep reducing the budget for three straight yeasr then the tax would also expire.

    A sales tax such as that would affect "the rich" more while still having an impact on ALL americans so we ALL carry and share the burden and thus are mindful of it. The reduction being tied to the tax makes it so that if the politicians can't sacrifice on their end then they can't force the country to either.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Feel free to do so then.
    Nope. Your google search works just as well as mine.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you have really been reading, I argue for cutting spending and raising taxes. That, if the deficit really matters to you, should be what you call for as well. Anything less simply won't do the job.
    And the simple question would be how much of a tax increase? On whom? and for how long?


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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And the simple question would be how much of a tax increase? On whom? and for how long?


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    Boo wants the rich to pay more taxes not people like him

    its the mentality that allows ultra rich dems to gain office

    people like Boo need to get walloped with tax increases before the rich do-the rich already pay the price for an overly-expansive government



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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have found no evidence to support that business doesn't hire due to tax cuts. I can find no objective evidence, and no one has offered any, that shows taxes make any noticable difference in hiring or economic growth. As I pointed oout long ago, history shows a florishing economy with a high tax base and with a low tax base and a struggling economy with a high tax base and with a low tax base. This suggests that taxes really don't play that large a role. Other factors, like consumer spending, are far more important.
    1976 to 1988 ought to be enough.

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