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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How about spending less?
    If you have really been reading, I argue for cutting spending and raising taxes. That, if the deficit really matters to you, should be what you call for as well. Anything less simply won't do the job.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    seiu's exemption from the cadillac tax is not a judgement

    it's a link, ie, common knowledge

    you need to up your game, for the good of your neighbors if not yourself
    Then you link it. Don't rely on the claim of common knowledge. And let's keep in mind, a jdgement is the same as a fact. So, you may link someone making that judgment (opinion), but that would not be the same or equal to an objective fact.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

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    it's the law

    you talk too much

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
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    it's the law

    you talk too much
    Again, you misread. That it is discrimination, improper discrmination is a judgment. Not fact. Opinion.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    To support J's claim he has to actually provide evidence.
    So... in order to support the Obama administrations claim that the CofC uses foreign money to finance campaign ads (a violation of the FEC rules), the administration has to actually provide evidence. I'm glad we finally agree on something.

    Or, is it only people who disagree with you that need to back up their claims, while the people who agree with you need not be held to that simple standard?

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, you misread. That it is discrimination, improper discrmination is a judgment. Not fact. Opinion.
    whatever little points you're focusing on now, the seiu received a very plum exemption most of its neighbors did not

    endless kneejerk argumentation over minutiae is demeaning

    ie, you talk too much

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    So... in order to support the Obama administrations claim that the CofC uses foreign money to finance campaign ads (a violation of the FEC rules), the administration has to actually provide evidence. I'm glad we finally agree on something.

    Or, is it only people who disagree with you that need to back up their claims, while the people who agree with you need not be held to that simple standard?
    Yes, they do. I've said nothing else. And j has to support his claims as well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    whatever little points you're focusing on now, the seiu received a very plum exemption most of its neighbors did not

    endless kneejerk argumentation over minutiae is demeaning

    ie, you talk too much
    No, unsupported judgments are demenaing. The truth is it was part of a negotiation and isn't forever. When you use sources that leap to judgements without honestly assessing the situation, you reach a wrong conclusion. Let me help:

    Significantly, it exempts insurance plans that were part of state and local collective bargaining agreements – union members – until January 1, 2018. They call this a “transition period” in which unions and re-adjust the way they’ve negotiated wages and health insurance in agreements with employers.

    Unions Win Key Concessions in Health Care Negotiations - Political Punch

    A lot of people were at the table during this, perhaps too many, including insurance companies.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    exemptions til 2018 are transition periods, not exemptions

    LOL!

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    exemptions til 2018 are transition periods, not exemptions

    LOL!
    Is it incorrect?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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