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More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

Boo Radley said:
I read. ;)
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Absolutely incredible how a young lib can read something and know more about whats best for a companies expansion and creating jobs than a successful business owner. Perhaps you could hire yourself out as a consultant

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Obamanator said:
Absolutely incredible how a young lib can read something and know more about whats best for a companies expansion and creating jobs than a successful business owner. Perhaps you could hire yourself out as a consultant

:rofl:thumbdown:Oopsie:
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the liberal mindset requires one who entertains such thoughts to at least claim they know what is better for others than those people. ITs how you justify welfare socialism and collectivist rot
 
Johnny DooWop said:
President Bush spent more than any president before him, including Jimmy Carter, and this before the Democrats took control of congress in '07. The old school Republicans used to be a little more fiscally conservative but those days are gone.
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Bush increased debt 5 Trillion over 8 yrs and Obama 3 trillion over 2 yrs. At this rate, we can expect Obama to spend 250% more than Bush, assumming he gets reelected which aint likely.
 
Obamanator said:
Bush increased debt 5 Trillion over 8 yrs and Obama 3 trillion over 2 yrs. At this rate, we can expect Obama to spend 250% more than Bush, assumming he gets reelected which aint likely.
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If the debt is such a concern then why was it ok for President Bush but not for President Obama
 
ender1 said:
If the debt is such a concern then why was it ok for President Bush but not for President Obama
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Is this an act? The debt is never ok, it wasn't ok when Bush and the Congress created it nor is it ok with Obama and the Congress putting Bush spending on steroids. At least with Bush we got economic growth and job creation until the Democrats took control of Congress. Obama economic policy is the issue, we have low economic growth, low job creation, higher spending, and a debt that will soon be 100% of GDP.
 
Conservative said:
Is this an act? The debt is never ok, it wasn't ok when Bush and the Congress created it nor is it ok with Obama and the Congress putting Bush spending on steroids. At least with Bush we got economic growth and job creation until the Democrats took control of Congress. Obama economic policy is the issue, we have low economic growth, low job creation, higher spending, and a debt that will soon be 100% of GDP.
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Does this mean if Republicans take the house and Senate in this election, that Obama immediately becomes Blame Free? After all... they should magically be able to fix everything right. Like good conservatives always do.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Does this mean if Republicans take the house and Senate in this election, that Obama immediately becomes Blame Free? After all... they should magically be able to fix everything right. Like good conservatives always do.
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They could if Obama pulls a Clinton and accepts the GOP agenda, if not he will veto GOP legislation and we will have gridlock. Obama will then blame the GOP and his minions will buy it because Obama rhetoric always trumps reality.
 
Conservative said:
They could if Obama pulls a Clinton and accepts the GOP agenda, if not he will veto GOP legislation and we will have gridlock. Obama will then blame the GOP and his minions will buy it because Obama rhetoric always trumps reality.
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Just like your rhetoric that the economy is in this shape because of President Obama.
 
ender1 said:
So you think that since there are those that are so with left leaning rhetoric need you to balance the scales.
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I don't believe in the leftwing agenda of Barack Obama. There is quite a difference between the Bush and Obama agendas, Bush is pro growth, pro private sector, Obama is pro govt, pro public sector. Our economy was built on a strong private sector.
 
Conservative said:
I don't believe in the leftwing agenda of Barack Obama.
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You do beleive the righwing agenda that says in some way spending was ok. . . if its for what we want.

Conservative said:
There is quite a difference between the Bush and Obama agendas, Bush is pro growth, pro private sector, Obama is pro govt, pro public sector. Our economy was built on a strong private sector.
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Again, its not the spending that offends you. Its what it is spent on.
 
ender1 said:
You do beleive the righwing agenda that says in some way spending was ok. . . if its for what we want.



Again, its not the spending that offends you. Its what it is spent on.
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What spending did Bush do that you disagreed with?
 
Conservative said:
What spending did Bush do that you disagreed with?
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My issues with President Bush's economic plan is much greater than just spending but we can start there.

Billions given to big business that makes huge profits even without it. Spending vast amounts on the Iraq war. Coming into office with a damn near balanced budget and then increasing the spending 5 or 6 trillion before he left. We can start there Mr Conservative.

Lets keep this to President Bush. Dont hide behind some attack on President Obama to justify why President Bush spent trillions of our money.
 
ender1 said:
My issues with President Bush's economic plan is much greater than just spending but we can start there.

Billions given to big business that makes huge profits even without it. Spending vast amounts on the Iraq war. Coming into office with a damn near balanced budget and then increasing the spending 5 or 6 trillion before he left. We can start there Mr Conservative.

Lets keep this to President Bush. Dont hide behind some attack on President Obama to justify why President Bush spent trillions of our money.
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It doesn't appear that you know what Bush did, billions given? You mean tax credits? What money did Bush give to business? If you get to keep more of what you earn is the govt. really giving you anything?

Spending on the Iraq War cost about 100 billion a year out of the 2.6-3.6 billion dollar Bush budgets over 8 years. How did that spending hurt you or your family?

You simply don't have a clue.
 
Conservative said:
Spending on the Iraq War cost about 100 billion a year out of the 2.6-3.6 billion dollar Bush budgets over 8 years. How did that spending hurt you or your family?
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source please
 
Conservative said:
It doesn't appear that you know what Bush did, billions given? You mean tax credits? What money did Bush give to business? If you get to keep more of what you earn is the govt. really giving you anything?
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Explain corn subsidies.
 
ender1 said:
source please
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United States Treasury Dept.

Direct costs

As of February 2010, around $704 billion has been spent based on estimates of current expenditure rates[1], which range from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) estimate of $2 billion per week to $12 billion a month, an estimate by economist Joseph Stiglitz.[2]
 
ender1 said:
Do you deny that we give out billions in corn subsidies.
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Corn Subsidies** in the United States totaled $73.8 billion from 1995-2009.

How much is that a year? How much is the budget of the United States a year? Do subsidies hurt you and your family?
 
Conservative said:
Corn Subsidies** in the United States totaled $73.8 billion from 1995-2009.

How much is that a year? How much is the budget of the United States a year? Do subsidies hurt you and your family?
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I do mind. If you want it then YOU pay for it. If its money out of my pocket because taxes go up then yes, my family has less.

Kinda suprised you and your dont take my money and give it away rhetoric is ok with this.
 
ender1 said:
Do you deny that we give out billions in corn subsidies.
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Don't worry ender1, those are his typical responses when you've proven him wrong. Usually its even less intellectual such as "what's your point?" I've gotten that one a lot. He doesn't sleep either, he's on here 24/7 ready to unapologetically and single-mindedly argue for every single GOP issue and then some. I'm not even sure he's human, I think he's some sort of GOP computer program put on here to blurt out talking points for their issues.
 
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