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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by jkohn51192 View Post
    Yeah, your on the top 1% and here on this forum, I dont think so. Chances are you wish you were in the top 2% making a million dollars a year. Anyway, even if you were, we proved that first off, the Bush Tax Cuts don't work as well as the Clinton Tax cuts when it comes to jobs. Clinton = 23 million in 8 years, Bush = 3 million in 8 years. Sorry, we don't care that your not making that extra 50,000 a year. We all have to pay taxes, and in America, you pay taxes according to your ability to pay. In the 1950's under Eisenhower it was like that, and you conservatives were just fine. So please, quit your complaining.
    1) you don't know who I am and you just joined this board yet you feel a need to claim I am lying about my status. That is lame and rather stupid.

    2) you cannot prove cause and effect

    3) I don't care if you care what I make-class envy is obviously your main motivation

    4) and you need to start paying your fair share of what you use and stop whining that those who are more ambitious and talented than you are need to carry your share of your load



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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Maybe you do, maybe you don't. Your stomach will be the final judge.

    ricksfolly
    my stomach says your posts are rather stupid

    My brain says worse but I don't want to upset the mods

    maybe you would be happier in life if you stopped worried about what others make and scheming to take more from them and rather focus your efforts on being a better person and a more prosperous tax payer



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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by jkohn51192 View Post
    Bush is the one who got attacked less than a year being in office. Obama, no attacks yet. Thank you very much.
    That's because Bush listened to Cheney, NEOCONS, and invaded a helpless Iraq. There's still millions of Sunni refuges in nearby countries, but just mentioning it is political dynamite.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I tire of your rants about the rich. I bring it up to show that I know what I am talking about when the envious claim that tax hikes won't "hurt the rich" or that the rich "dont need" their money--a constant claim from the parasite side of the debate
    Debating with one of the few 2 percent super rich (if true) isn't envy, it's curiosity about a breed very few of us know anything about, curios like a five legged horse or a two headed man.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by jkohn51192 View Post
    You need to really get your facts staight. The Obama tax cuts, pelosi if reffering to, are the ones obama gave 95% of all working families, he used that crappy ol stimulus bill to give it to em.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_168785.html

    Obama says his signature "Making Work Pay" tax break will affect 95 percent of working families. The $400 credit for individuals is to be doled out through the rest of the year. Couples are slated to get up to $800. Most workers are to see about a $13 per week increase in their take-home pay. In 2010, the credit would be about $7.70 a week, if it is spread over the entire year.
    wow, thanks a lot

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by jkohn51192 View Post
    obama's war? Are u ********* kidding me? Are you out of your ******* mind? Bush is the one that left afghanistan for iraq. You really need to get your **** straight mister because bush left afghanistan for iraq, letting the taliban come back, losing the truth of the afghan people, and now the situation is so bad there, that we had to go back in and make it right. So please prof, don't give me this bs about obama's war.
    Obama's Afghanistan Plan: 30,000 Troops, No Endless Committment

    "june deadliest month in afghanistan:" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6631512.shtml

    "july deadliest month in afghanistan:" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6727036.shtml

    so much avoidance of responsibility

    wow
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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by jkohn51192 View Post
    whats stopping dems from voting on this? 1 or 2 members in their caucus and the whole friken republican caucus, thats who.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42330.html

    At least 38 House Democrats have now come out publicly in favor of at least a short-term extension of current income tax rates for couples earning more than $250,000 and individuals over the $200,000 threshhold — bucking calls from Obama and Pelosi to let taxes increase on wealthier Americans.
    Dem letter: Keep tax cuts for rich - John Maggs - POLITICO.com

    Forty-seven House Democrats broke with Democratic leaders Tuesday to call for an extension of current capital gains and dividends tax rates for the wealthy.
    c'mon, barry, man up

    show a little character

    try at least to look like a president
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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Debating with one of the few 2 percent super rich (if true) isn't envy, it's curiosity about a breed very few of us know anything about, curios like a five legged horse or a two headed man.

    ricksfolly
    really? you don't have a family doctor? Or meet the guy who owns the car dealership you buy your cars at? Just about everyone I work with -at least the attorneys-and most of my classmates from Law School. 2% Isn't a millionaire given to make the top 1% you have to make about 350K a year.



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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, I dunno, giving $2 billion to Brazil for offshore drilling, fewer entitlements, cut spending on the study of the effect of cocaine on monkies, deer underpasses, turtle tunnels, Congress' salaries, government funded abortions, cash for clunkers.

    Just a few things off the top of my head.

    Where would you do some cutting?
    OOOH FUN!!!

    1. immediately cease payouts from the second 'stimulus' and kill the others more recently hatched before they fully get off the ground. use the 'proceeds' to pay back the debts they incurred when we started to fund them.

    2. we don't need an Air Force. get rid of that, fold it's necessary functions back into the Army and the Navy, and retain it's above-atmosphere functions for what is left of NASA.

    3. on that note, cut everything that doesn't have a defense-related function in NASA, and place it under the DOD.

    4. all agricultural and 'renewable energy' subsidies. while we're at it, all subsidies in general with the exception (again) of anything related immediately to defense or law enforcement.

    5. sell back GM, let her succeed or fail on her own. privatize Freddie and Fannie, and let them suffer the same. if possible, i would like to see us get some of our money back from those last two fraudulent enterprises.

    6. the TARP funds that just went into a slush fund - sieze them, use them to pay down debt, do the same for further TARP proceeds as they become available.

    7. repeal Obamacare and turn Medicare into a HSA/voucher-style program; offer a privatization option for Social Security, and means-test benefits rather than paying out according to pay in.

    8. cut welfare programs that serve to trap generations in poverty

    9. cut the department of education

    10. cut these insane three-year-long unemployment benefits that serve only to keep people out of work

    11. i could go on and on; but most of these things could be covered with the blanket "enforce the 10th Amendment". if it is in Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution (or one of the Amendments), Congress doesn't have the authority to appropriate and spend money on it.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    You're better at the top of your list CP. I hope as you age you learn more, but you really know too little about people. If GM failed, the reprecussions on those in office would be far more than they will be now. Our leaders know this, and what you call for would never happen no matter who was in office. And being on unemployment isn't really keeping any real number from getting work. That's more a myth on the part of the complaining class.

    But, I would be interested in hearing from you in 20 or 30 years.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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