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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Of course no is rasing taxes on the 47% 47% of tax payers don't make 250,000 or more. Be accurate please.
    47% don't pay any income taxes now so of course they don't make 250,000. Keep diverting from reality.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    47% don't pay any income taxes now so of course they don't make 250,000. Keep diverting from reality.
    Please try to keep up. The porposal has been to let the tax cuts laspe on the top 1%.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Please try to keep up. The porposal has been to let the tax cuts laspe on the top 1%.
    And the point is the tax cuts don't lapse on 47% of the people regardless. Try to understand that 53% of the people fund this govt. and yet 47% pay nothing yet use most of the services provided by those 53%. I am still waiting for you to tell me how much money will be generated by raising the taxes on the top 1%?

    this is nothing more than class warfare and envy which is what liberalism is all about. "Your" President hasn't been accurate on any projection yet so why is he accurate now?

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And the point is the tax cuts don't lapse on 47% of the people regardless. Try to understand that 53% of the people fund this govt. and yet 47% pay nothing yet use most of the services provided by those 53%. I am still waiting for you to tell me how much money will be generated by raising the taxes on the top 1%?

    this is nothing more than class warfare and envy which is what liberalism is all about. "Your" President hasn't been accurate on any projection yet so why is he accurate now?
    Ben Stein is a conservative and he disagrees with you.

    In Class Warfare, Guess Which Class Is Winning


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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Ben Stein is a conservative and he disagrees with you.

    In Class Warfare, Guess Which Class Is Winning
    Logic and common sense along with actual facts support my point of view. Bea.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury websites support my position because they show actual results.

    My question to you is why aren't you winning? You seem to care more about what someone else makes or pays in taxes vs. trying to become one of those you seem to hate. I am tired of this argument and trying to convince you the value of you keeping more of what you earn. It makes no sense to continue this.

    I will ask you again however to name for me just one Obama economic prediction that has been accurate? He claims it will blow a 700 billion dollar hole in the deficit, do you believe that and if so prove it. He claimed that his stimulus plan would prevent unemployment from exceeding 8%, how is that prediction working out? He claimed that economic growth would be 4% this year, annualized the GDP rate is now at 1.6%. He has made claims that jobs are being created each month for the last 8 yet every month this year unemployment is higher than it was last year.

    Stop buying the rhetoric and do your own research to get the facts.

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Please try to keep up. The porposal has been to let the tax cuts laspe on the top 1%.
    wrong-again. 200K is well below the cut off for top 1%-that is about 350K



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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Ben Stein is a conservative and he disagrees with you.

    In Class Warfare, Guess Which Class Is Winning
    the rich always win. You ever see the movie (The Original) Rollerball? Big "government" (run by anti-individualistic corporate barons) kept changing the rules to kill off the ultimate winner. He kept winning no matter what the rules were but the game itself was ruined.

    When the best and the brightest cannot win, the entire system is FUBAR



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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Congress Punts on Taxes - WSJ.com

    how do YOU spell s-u-r-r-e-n-d-e-r?

    Democrats abandoned plans to vote before Election Day on extending Bush-era tax cuts for the middle class while eliminating them for better-off Americans, spooked by protests from vulnerable incumbents and bleak prospects for passage.

    With time running out to plan for 2011, the delay raises uncertainty for small businesses and individual taxpayers over their future liabilities. It also sets up a titanic battle over taxes after the election.
    does anyone other than our lost leadership actually believe that that which can't be done TODAY will be doable AFTER the murderous midterms in november?

    pelosi, for example, is gonna be replaced

    get real, mr hoyer

    party on, dp'ers

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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Logic and common sense along with actual facts support my point of view
    Incorrect. Everything you have ever cited has yet to actually prove your arguments. If you could actually prove your arguments, you'd run linear regression upon all of that raw data to actually prove your claims. Instead you have stated "I don't care about linear regression."

    Facts =/= Your opinion. Get that straight.
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    Re: More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Incorrect. Everything you have ever cited has yet to actually prove your arguments. If you could actually prove your arguments, you'd run linear regression upon all of that raw data to actually prove your claims. Instead you have stated "I don't care about linear regression."

    Facts =/= Your opinion. Get that straight.
    I posted bea.gov, bls.gov, and the U.S. Treasury results. Raw data proves that tax revenue grew AFTER both the Reagan and Bush tax RATE cuts. Why I have to explain to you the benefits of YOU keeping more of your own money is beyond me.


    *** 2000*** ***2001*** ***2002*** ***2003*** ***2004*** ***2005*** ***2006*** ***2007*** ***2008*** ***2009***
    ******Current*receipts 3,132.40 3,118.20 2,967.90 3,043.40 3,265.70 3,659.30 3,995.20 4,197.00 4,074.00 3,726.90
    Current*tax*receipts 2,202.80 2,163.70 2,002.10 2,047.90 2,213.20 2,546.80 2,807.40 2,951.20 2,780.30 2,409.30
    ***Personal*current*taxes 1,232.30 1,234.80 1,050.40 1,000.30 1,047.80 1,208.60 1,352.40 1,488.70 1,438.20 1,140.00

    Personal income tax revenue in billions

    Yr
    2003 2047 billion
    2004 2213
    2005 2546
    2006 2807
    2007 2951

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