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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    One might, but if that's what you got for ammunition, you're probably not going to get anywhere in any sort of debate. When the Messiah and the Red Queen do something I can respect them for, like resigning, I'll give them the respect they deserve, just like I do right now.

    Besides, who was the last Secretary of State the earned any respect? Kissinger?
    How about give them respect because he's the President of the United States, and is doing a job and keeping the things going day by day that any President is expected to do by virtue of being in that position. For example continueing to oversee the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Or even if you can't respect them for a thing, at least respect them out of "good sportsmanship" and the fact that they were elected by the American people.

    You can still respect someone and disagree with them politically.

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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I wonder if you'll be so sure "its what the Americans want" when she loses.
    Sure I will.

    American's don't vote for socialists or liberals, so her possible loss means only that the Americans were out numbered.

    After all, Americans in the cemetaries don't vote, something one can't say about Democrats, given that Eric Holder and his refusal to have the US Department of Justice's refusal to compel the states to purge its voter rolls of dead people.

    Anyway, again the Republican Party isn't supporting O'Donnell that much either.
    Yes, the party that claims a name that implies it supports a representational republic is refusing to support the will of the people in regards to the candidate that will be campaigning under the Republican banner.

    That says tons about why so many "Republican" candidates, like Castle, are being tossed aside by the angry mob of Awakening Americans.

    So Castle is actually more in line with his Party than O'Donnell is, in a way. And why is that? Because the Republican party doesn't think she can win and don't like her positions precisely because they are too divisive.
    No. Absolutely not.

    The Republican Party is the people.

    Castle is aligned with the party leadership, who are increasingly shown to be out of touch with the people they purport to represent.

    Pay attention to the difference.

    So if you expect Republicans to do whats best for the party as a whole than O'Donnell should change her platform so her money holders can hope their investment will pay off come election day.
    Ah.

    You're saying O'Donnell shoud be just like Obama and let the donors control the puppet strings.

    Well, Americans don't really want that to happen any more.

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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How about give them respect because he's the President of the United States,
    Why? Don't you pay any attention to the clowns that have been getting elected? We had the Read My Lips Oath Breaker Guy, the Rapist is a Perjurer, the Texas Frat Boy, and the Messiah Marxist.

    Winning an election doesn't give them a ticket to my respect, they have to earn it.

    and is doing a job
    No.

    The job of the President is to uphold the Constitution and faithfully execute all laws. Like the Frat Boy and the Rapist Perjurer, the Messiah Marxist is neither supporting the Constitution nor upholding the law. At the end 2012, the United States will have suffered under twenty straight years of presidents who viewed the Constitution as nothing more than a roadblock to be bypassed by guile or force.

    and keeping the things going day by day that any President is expected to do by virtue of being in that position. For example continueing to oversee the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
    You mean like when the Messiah Marxist gave the commanders in the field 2/3 of the troops they requested, and simultaneously told the enemy that they need only hang on until the end of 2011, when he will be withdrawing the troops? I'm supposed the respect an ignorant turd like that?

    Why?

    Or even if you can't respect them for a thing, at least respect them out of "good sportsmanship" and the fact that they were elected by the American people.
    Welcome to the real world. I'm not a party member with obligations to them. I'm an American, and my obligations are to the United States.

    But I'm sure you spent the eight years between 2001 and 2009 berating all those Democrats dissing Bush, right?

    You can still respect someone and disagree with them politically.
    Equally, I can still disrespect someone because they're wrong, politically.

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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    Don't you think you're view of who are "Americans" is a bit too narrow? You've just about singled everyone who voted Democrat as American along with everyone who voted for Obama, which you describe as a socialist, as not being American either. Also I'd like to point out that there is no national unity like you describe behind Republicanism or Americanism as you see it. Tea Party candidates have lost in many elections and primaries nation wide, are those Republicans also not American, or not even Republican?

    You make it sound like the politician opposition isn't even American in the same sense you are.

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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Don't you think you're view of who are "Americans" is a bit too narrow? You've just about singled everyone who voted Democrat as American along with everyone who voted for Obama, which you describe as a socialist, as not being American either.
    Really?

    Gee, I wonder why I might have done that? You think maybe it's because socialism is unamerican, is outlawed by the Constitution, and is what's wrecking the country? You think maybe that becaue Obama is a socialist I call him one?

    Those facts might be relelvant.

    Also I'd like to point out that there is no national unity like you describe behind Republicanism or Americanism as you see it. Tea Party candidates have lost in many elections and primaries nation wide, are those Republicans also not American, or not even Republican?
    Hello? Why on earth do you equate "lack of national unity" with any particular group losing elections? I've already pointed out that it's possible that the Americans may have been so lackadaisical about their responsiblities to the republic that they might be outnumbered. That might have meaning, too.

    A person that does not stand for American values can't honestly claim to be an American. That's just how life is.

    You make it sound like the politician opposition isn't even American in the same sense you are.
    No, they're not american in any sense at all.

    In fact, their positions don't make any sense when weighed against their stated goals. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Tax Ourselves to Prosperity.

    Well, war ain't peace, freedom is freedom, slavery isn't freeom, and the money runs out before taxation can create prosperity, every damn time.

    Americans believe in self-reliance, independence, personal responsibility, and a trainload of other concepts the Left can't discuss.

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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    I think you need to get some sleep. You are claiming the majority of Americans aren't Americans because they don't think the way you think an American should. What gives you the right to judge people like that? I thought being an American was about the freedom to pick the type of government you live under, and changing it as is seen fit by the voters, but apparently its about conforming to a single political ideology without which one cannot be an American.

    You speak of independence but yet offer no chance of disagreement. So if I can't be a democrat and still be American, that eliminates a huge portion of the country, and I can't be a certain type of Republican without giving up my "Americanism." So let me ask you, where can you, a true American, and me, apparently not one, disagree? What is up for debate, whats left? Lets say I wanted to be a real American in your eyes, what would I have to do.

    I've got news for you. You're just as much an American as me, or anyone else born in this country or naturalized to be a citizen. America is NOT about following a certain ideology or believing the government should work in one way. And I, along with all my other non-Americans, have the same claim to that title of being an American as anyone else.

    I take few things personally but this is one of them, don't ever say I'm not an American, and don't ever say those who disagree with you are not Americans. I know many individuals who are more of an American than you'll ever be if you don't change and accept the differences that exist, and have always existed in our country, these are my friends, family, Christians, Muslims, soldiers who've fought and some who have died.

    Americanism is about a set of values and personal liberties set in the Constitution and other places, but not what you've twisted them into you with this ignorant self-righteous contempt filled rhetoric.

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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I think you need to get some sleep. You are claiming the majority of Americans aren't Americans because they don't think the way you think an American should. What gives you the right to judge people like that?
    The First Amendment of the Constitution of United States, the document the people who aren't Americans don't bother to understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I thought being an American was about the freedom to pick the type of government you live under, and changing it as is seen fit by the voters, but apparently its about conforming to a single political ideology without which one cannot be an American.
    Like I said, people who aren't Americans don't understand the Constitution so they come up with comments like that one.

    Explain what document defines the structure of the United States government and what document provides what procedure to alter that structure.

    You speak of independence but yet offer no chance of disagreement.
    I'm not saying you can't disagree. But if you're going against the Constitution, you're not a real American.

    It's not complicated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    So if I can't be a democrat and still be American, that eliminates a huge portion of the country, and I can't be a certain type of Republican without giving up my "Americanism."
    Yeah, that's too bad for you people, but the real Americans are waking up from a century long nap and we're not happy with the damage you've done to our country. We're going to have to ask you to move a country that fits you're vision of how bad a nation should be and stop wrecking ours to fit that vision.

    So let me ask you, where can you, a true American, and me, apparently not one, disagree? What is up for debate, whats left?
    Don't know. So far you haven't been right on anything that I've seen. You should work on learning more about what America is really about.

    What it isn't about is punishing the successful to buy votes from the useless, it isn't about apologizing to the world for existing, it isn't about stealing money to make y ou white guilt go away, it isn't about letting other nations invade us and being afraid to speak against it because that might be construed as racist.

    Americans have friggin' backbones.

    Lets say I wanted to be a real American in your eyes, what would I have to do.
    Grow up and stop demanding others take care of you and stop demanding others take care of the problems of others that seem to be urgent to you. That's the first step.

    Let us know when you take it.

    I've got news for you. You're just as much an American as me, or anyone else born in this country or naturalized to be a citizen. America is NOT about following a certain ideology or believing the government should work in one way.
    Like I said, real Americans understand the Constitution and are incapable of making such a foolish statement. And being an American is about following a certain broadly defined ideology, an ideology that's encoded in the Constitution itself.

    And I, along with all my other non-Americans, have the same claim to that title of being an American as anyone else.
    Well, all the non-Americans are making false claims. They're claim jumpers, without the huge desserts.

    I take few things personally but this is one of them, don't ever say I'm not an American, and don't ever say those who disagree with you are not Americans.
    Hmmm....real Americans recognize the true value of this:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    They don't tell others they're not allowed to say things.

    Your angst isn't impressive. The goal is to get you off your current path and onto the track to make a real American out of you, if you're in the country legally, that is.

    I know many individuals who are more of an American than you'll ever be if you don't change and accept the differences that exist, and have always existed in our country, these are my friends, family, Christians, Muslims, soldiers who've fought and some who have died.
    Yes, how droll. Now you're pretending that I don't know there are differences between people. No advocate of any form of socialism fully understands what it is to be an American, and that includes Thomas Jefferson, who wrongly wanted the federal government to fund public education, but who at least had the honesty to understand that the Constitution would have to be Amended to allow this. That amendment was not forthcoming, and the Constituion still does not allow the federal government to fund education, and that means all advocates of public education are not complete Americans.

    Any other strawmen you want to set up before you strike the match?

    Americanism is about a set of values and personal liberties set in the Constitution and other places, but not what you've twisted them into you with this ignorant self-righteous contempt filled rhetoric.
    Ah, so you HAVE heard of the Constitution. All you need to do now is begin to understand it and what it means on a personal level.

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    Re: Mike Castle Won't Endorse Christine O'Donnell

    Alright dude I can't be part of this discussion anymore without breaking a few forum rules, take that how you will but im out.

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