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    Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    An Associated press story just out.

    Not only are the Dems thrilled the GOP leadership won't lift a finger to help Kristin Murray, O'Donnell saying she has no chance of winning.

    It's worse than that a former campaign Mgr. has made accusations of the prior miss use of Campaign funds.

    I say the GOP is making a mistake that will cost them in the short term if not the long run. I for not will not lend any support of any kind to the National Party.

    As to local Republicans I know I can count on Congressman Jerry Lewis because I know him personally. All others will depend on their attitude toward Tea Party Candidates.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...dWp4QD9I8BBOG0

    By RANDALL CHASE (AP) – 16 minutes ago

    WILMINGTON, Del. — The state Republican Party's fierce attacks on tea party-backed Christine O'Donnell offer Democrats plenty of ammunition in the U.S. Senate race after her shocking upset of a nine-term congressman and former Delaware governor.

    Democrats watched for weeks as U.S. Rep. Mike Castle and O'Donnell pummeled each other in an ugly contest that didn't let up even in the final hours when her own party launched automated phone calls attacking her.
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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
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    Ah thanks I feel dumb.

    Anyway I think its a good article and I agree with O'Donnell when she talks about "Republican cannibalism" except I think her and other Tea Partiers are to blame. This is exactly what I've been talking about in several recent posts about compromise. Castle was willing to compromise with Dems and follow his voters, but because of that he didn't get everything a typical Republican would want in a candidate. The response apparently from enough Republicans in Delaware was to replace him with someone who would promise to give them, the Republicans, everything they want... if elected. And thats the problem, the majority of Republican voters in that state have "We are unwilling to compromise" and its going to cost them the election in Delaware and result in a candidate whos even more far off from what that majority wanted. So in the end, they'll get even less of what they want to see from a Senator.

    Compromise is required!

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ah thanks I feel dumb.

    Anyway I think its a good article and I agree with O'Donnell when she talks about "Republican cannibalism" except I think her and other Tea Partiers are to blame. This is exactly what I've been talking about in several recent posts about compromise. Castle was willing to compromise with Dems and follow his voters, but because of that he didn't get everything a typical Republican would want in a candidate. The response apparently from enough Republicans in Delaware was to replace him with someone who would promise to give them, the Republicans, everything they want... if elected. And thats the problem, the majority of Republican voters in that state have "We are unwilling to compromise" and its going to cost them the election in Delaware and result in a candidate whos even more far off from what that majority wanted. So in the end, they'll get even less of what they want to see from a Senator.

    Compromise is required!
    Compromise is a valid concept...just not when it comes to principles. Too many politicians compromise in that arena. The voters arent at all unclear about their expectation...the majority of conservatives in Delaware dont want a democrat but they also dont want a RINO. The 14 trillion dollar hole we are ALL in and that our great great grandchildren will have to pay is the bi-product of politicians compromising.

    And on the subject of compromise, what is being offered in return, or is compromise a one way street? I think far too often when democrats and The One clamor for republican compromise...well...how does Mandy Patinkin say it in "The Princess Bride"..."You keep saying this word. I do not think it means what you think it means." They arent looking for compromise, they are looking for capitulation.

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    And yet while you're saying "Compromise is required" you're ignoring the fact that the GOP in the state are refusing to "compromise" by acknowleding that their voters didn't want their candidate and actually giving that candidate support.

    Frankly, McDonald IS listening to the voters. The republican voters in that state are saying "We'd rather someone with staunch conservative values and who will run on those and push those, even if he may not win, then someone that has a better chance at winning but is going to do little good at actually furthering our desires and hopes for the country". Frankly, I see nothing wrong with that.

    Haven't people been bitching and complaining for years that elections are voting for the "lesser of two evils"? And now that people are actually saying "Fine, we want someone based on principle NOT based on who has the best shot to win" suddenly we're condemning them for that and complaining about not choosing whose the most politically advantageous candidate?

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And yet while you're saying "Compromise is required" you're ignoring the fact that the GOP in the state are refusing to "compromise" by acknowleding that their voters didn't want their candidate and actually giving that candidate support.

    Frankly, McDonald IS listening to the voters. The republican voters in that state are saying "We'd rather someone with staunch conservative values and who will run on those and push those, even if he may not win, then someone that has a better chance at winning but is going to do little good at actually furthering our desires and hopes for the country". Frankly, I see nothing wrong with that.

    Haven't people been bitching and complaining for years that elections are voting for the "lesser of two evils"? And now that people are actually saying "Fine, we want someone based on principle NOT based on who has the best shot to win" suddenly we're condemning them for that and complaining about not choosing whose the most politically advantageous candidate?
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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    I keep hearing you guys talk about what the Delaware voters want, but lets not forget this was not a general election, and in that arena O'Donnell is way too extreme for the moderate majority. Last night you saw GOP primary voters split in two, those who thought that the incumbent had it in the bag and did not turn out, and those motivated tea-party members who pulled-off a victory.

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I keep hearing you guys talk about what the Delaware voters want, but lets not forget this was not a general election, and in that arena O'Donnell is way too extreme for the moderate majority. Last night you saw GOP primary voters split in two, those who thought that the incumbent had it in the bag and did not turn out, and those motivated tea-party members who pulled-off a victory.
    So says conventional wisdom. BUT, here was a case of the people of Delaware, whom are Republican's sending a clear message they want a real difference to vote for. How that runs out in the General we'll just have to wait for Nov. to find out. But the Republican Voters (they live in Delaware too ya know) have spoken. Why do you act as if they don't count?
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