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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    From I gathered out of that round table she would leave it up to god.
    So she would what.. stand there silent till god did something? You mean like god did not stop the holocaust? So is she saying that because God did not stop the holocaust, then it was God's will to exterminate the Jews, gays, mentally handicapped, communists/socialists and gypsies?

    Is that a real strong conservative view?.
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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    But you were saying that it was hypoctritical of people who complain about choosing the "lesser of two evils" to bemoan this result, when the opposite is true.
    Know, I was saying it was rather sad that people sit there for years complaining about how it stinks that people have to choose the lesesr of two evils, and then when a group of people decide they DON'T want to do that they get condemned for it.

    The conservatives in the primary had an option, nominate someone who would give them a lesser of two evils situation but give them a good shot to win or nominate someone who would actually allow them to vote based on principle but would haev less of a shot to win. They choose the later. If they had chose the former they'd have been going along with the same routine so many have bitched about for years now.

    The results are making voters statewide choose between two candidates they don't view favorably, preventing them from having a choice of a person who they view favorably.
    I wasn't talking about, nor caring about, "voters state wide". I was talking SPECIFICALLY about the voters that voted in the republican primary. THEY actually took the action necessary to allow themselves to for once NOT have to choose the lesser of two evils in their mind.

    It is the state GOP's feelings on this that are irrelevant, since from the point of view of those bemoaning the choice of the "lesser of two evils", this applies to the electorate as a whole.
    No, the republican primary choosing the republican candidate is the REPUBLICAN VOTERS choosing to have someone they like with a worse shot then choosing a "lesser evil" that has a good chance to vote. The electorate as a whole doesn't factor into this with what I'm talking about.

    Once again, if the lesser of two evils is the one who disagrees with you less, this is going to be the choice you will have in every election where you are not personally on the ballot.
    Once again, apparently Dav didn't bother to read what I stated. The lesser of two evils is NOT simply the one you disagree with less. The lesser of two evils is when you have two people you absolutely do not want to vote for, but you have to vote for someone, so you vote for the one that you have at least something you like about them or that you dislike a little less. That is not the same as saying "anyone who you disagree with less" because you completely leaving out the requirement that for it to be an "evil" it must be someone you absolutely would rather not vote for. Its entirely possible for people to disagree with someone on some issues without seeing them as an "evil" in an electoral sense.

    Thanks to O'Donnell primary voters, statewide voters will now have to choose between two candidates they see as less non-evil than Castle, and they will probably end up choosing the one the O'Donnell primary voters see as being the greatest evil. It's essentially a lose-lose situation.
    Well, sucks to be those statewide voters. I guess they should've gotten involved in one of the two primaries and pushed for the nomination of a candidate that was in line with their principles of moderation rather than just assuming that other people will willingly put THEMSELVES in a "lesser of two evils" situation so that those other people don't have to be in one.

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Stop defending her gezzz, you are embarrassing yourself.

    What she said is indefensible and you know it.. If it had been a left wing candidate you would have been all over it..
    And you'd defend it while throwing in attacks against Israel? Are you done godwining the thread now with worthless additions?

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Good God, come on, you guy's aren't this obtuse are you? I know you aren't saying it, I am asking it....So how about you answer it?


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    Oh BTW, ABC is reporting:



    So I guess it's on.


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    i guess so. and imo, she won't be elected.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So she would what.. stand there silent till god did something? You mean like god did not stop the holocaust? So is she saying that because God did not stop the holocaust, then it was God's will to exterminate the Jews, gays, mentally handicapped, communists/socialists and gypsies?

    Is that a real strong conservative view?.
    At this point I do think she is an anti-Semite on par with the Nazi's. What I think her answers illustrate is that she poor leadership skills.

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And you'd defend it while throwing in attacks against Israel? Are you done godwining the thread now with worthless additions?
    Attacks against Israel? where? Are we not discussing the Delaware GOP winner? Did she not clearly say what she said? Why are you trying to change the subject all of a sudden?
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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    You made an accusation to another member that they would be acting differently if a liberal had said what its been suggested this candidate said. I was making a similar accusation to you that if it was a liberal that had said it rather than running through here godwining the thread you'd instead be supporting them and throwing out your own attacks on Israel in the process. I'm not changing talking about the exact same hypothetical you stated here:

    If it had been a left wing candidate you would have been all over it..
    Doing the same thing you did there, stating what you think a poster would've been doing had it happened on the other side.

    As to her statements, what she meant by them, and her stance on Jews, I'll make my own personal call on it for myself when I get home and can research it in a far more independent and full portion then the disingenuous words of someone who routinely, ruthlessly, and continually attacks and pushes propoganda about Israel around now suddenly acting like such things offends his sensabilities.

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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You made an accusation to another member that they would be acting differently if a liberal had said what its been suggested this candidate said. I was making a similar accusation to you that if it was a liberal that had said it rather than running through here godwining the thread you'd instead be supporting them and throwing out your own attacks on Israel in the process. I'm not changing talking about the exact same hypothetical you stated here:
    LOL, you are the one bringing something out of left field into the discussion. But I do make the accusation, and that accusation is based on the usual partisan crap coming from the right and American is a poster boy for that.

    Doing the same thing you did there, stating what you think a poster would've been doing had it happened on the other side.
    Which again has nothing to do with Israel. Or am I not allowed to call people out for hypocrisy? He is defending her for her comments, comments that done by anyone else but a "favoured" son or daughter would have caused the wrath of the might right wing to come down on them hard. Had I said such a stupid thing, American and many others would be on me faster than 500 kg fatso on a box of donuts.

    As to her statements, what she meant by them, and her stance on Jews, I'll make my own personal call on it for myself when I get home and can research it in a far more independent and full portion then the disingenuous words of someone who routinely, ruthlessly, and continually attacks and pushes propoganda about Israel around now suddenly acting like such things offends his sensabilities.
    Again, you bring Israel up again. Why are you trying to change the subject?
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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    a few things are clear:

    gop turnout in delaware was double what was expected in this closed primary

    the more the establishment rips on TEA the better it tastes to american voters

    ms odonnell is HOT, she's getting flooded with donations, just since last nite---her website crashed today

    this race is gonna be close, if she loses it won't be by much

    and that in itself is terrifying to the party in power, that a tea party extremist has a real chance to take joe biden's bench in the blue hens

    something is happening in america, something big

    we are witnessing the awakening of an exciting NEW gop

    it is likely to pilfer pelosi's place, and it's going to come very close upstairs, at the least

    worry
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    Re: Dems thrilled as tea party win stuns Delaware GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    a few things are clear:

    gop turnout in delaware was double what was expected in this closed primary

    the more the establishment rips on TEA the better it tastes to american voters

    ms odonnell is HOT, she's getting flooded with donations, just since last nite---her website crashed today

    this race is gonna be close, if she loses it won't be by much

    and that in itself is terrifying to the party in power, that a tea party extremist has a real chance to take joe biden's bench in the blue hens

    something is happening in america, something big

    we are witnessing the awakening of an exciting NEW gop

    it is likely to pilfer pelosi's place, and it's going to come very close upstairs, at the least

    worry
    Nice spin. The reality is that the Tea Party pretty much ensured the Democrats will keep the Senate. For that I owe them a measure of thanks. Thank you Palin and Tea Party....
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