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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    My reaction reading the headline was, "Oh, I smell a court case."

    Code-of-Ethics? My, I wish we had that level of ethical consideration when Clinton broke the law, lied in court under oath in an attempt to deny someone their day in court. Perhaps the NY Transit Authority should have been responsible for his case in Congress.

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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Let's stick to the case at hand.
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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Let's stick to the case at hand.
    I am not the one who changed the subject.

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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    NJtransit is more like Greyhound rather then Cityhall
    Greyhound isn't tax payer funded and managed, and he didn't commit this action on the job, but in his free time.
    Perhaps we can start firing all those that slag Christians?

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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Unless you want to argue that every single government employee represents the government 24/7, this guy was not there representing NJTransit.

    Step away from this situation and imagine what would happen if the position you're arguing for were actually the law. Imagine if GWB had decreed that anyone employed by the federal government in any capacity would be fired if they ever objected to any administration policies in public. Under your theory, because no one has a right to work for the government, that decree would not violate anyone's first amendment rights. That's clearly not how the first amendment was designed to work.
    It is rather stupid that this law would only apply to the government though

    What would be the difference if the CEO of Ford said that any one who criticized the government under XXXX president would be fired compared to the director of NJtransit
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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It is rather stupid that this law would only apply to the government though

    What would be the difference if the CEO of Ford said that any one who criticized the government under XXXX president would be fired compared to the director of NJtransit
    This isn't a statute, it's the Constitution. The Constitution binds the government, not individuals.
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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's not a law, it's the Constitution. The Constitution binds the government, not individuals.
    Either way it is idiotic that someone who works for the government seems to have a greater right to free speech then someone working in private industry
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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Either way it is idiotic that someone who works for the government seems to have a greater right to free speech then someone working in private industry
    We all have the same rights. None of us can be punished by the government for protected speech. All of us can be punished by private individuals for protected speech.
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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    Ok, something's bugging me....It probably won't make any difference about how anyone feels about the guy..still

    I know I heard this guy (or figured it was same guy) on TV talking about the specific pages he tore out and set fire to. They were violent pages talking of killing etc.

    I can find nothing on this, just that he burned the Quran or that he ripped pages from the Koran and burned them.
    If he ripped only certain pages out to burn, doesn't anyone think that would be a tiny bit newsworthy? Just askin'....
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    Re: Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit

    It's interesting to see how free-speech is used when defending someone's actions.
    I have the right to call someone a nigger or a spic if I want - purely racist terms. That's protected the 1st Amendment.
    However - if I worked for the state or federal government and said these things it would be quite understandable when they let me go, or when they pushed me to resign.

    Someone has the right to do what they want.
    And sometimes companies have the right to protect their public-perception, which includes firing people.

    Especially fi that person's actions would somehow be brought around negatively to that business - and that's more so true when it's government related in any way.
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