That's the problem.
Mainstream muslims are not radical extremists.
Mainstream conservatives are becoming a rare breed or their voice is not being heard.
Teabaggers are not mainstream.
For instance? (hate speech coming from liberals)
Do you consider being called a redneck or white trash or an idiot Teabagger or wealthy elitist... hate speech??
Calling you a bigot or a homophobe, is that hate speech?
Identifying intolerance, fear, ignorance... how is that hate speech?
When you burn up a holy book, you're expressing hate toward that religion? Why? Because you're afraid of them. (fear) Why? Because you lack the intelligence to know/understand that you should not be afraid of the religion itself, but only the radical fringe elements. Which is true of Christianity as well.
It is if you are trying to categorize me into some sub group, isn't that what liberals say that conservative do to them?Calling you a bigot or a homophobe, is that hate speech?
Difference is that is NOT what you are doing. I don't know of anyone embracing the name "idiot Teabagger".Identifying intolerance, fear, ignorance... how is that hate speech?
Again you mischaracterize greatly. But I would ask you to name the so called "Christian terror attacks" occurring in the modern times. See problem is that even if you can name a few, the larger Christian community stands up with a loud voice to condemn them, something we don't see with the same force coming from the larger Islamic community. And don't give me the fatwas supposedly issued in condemnation of attacks, they are weak, and of low volume compared to response from Christians.When you burn up a holy book, you're expressing hate toward that religion? Why? Because you're afraid of them. (fear) Why? Because you lack the intelligence to know/understand that you should not be afraid of the religion itself, but only the radical fringe elements. Which is true of Christianity as well.
Problem is hazelnut, is that you, through your words here so obviously do "hate" conservatives. you hold contempt for people you don't even know personally, that you meet over the internet because they hold different views than your liberal ideological viewpoint, that you attach names like "idiot" and whatever other disgusting name you can think of to troll like "pig" to them.
I tell you what, if I want to hear trash like that I would turn on Ed Schultz, or Olberman, or better yet LINK TV. As for in here, you should have some self respect and tone it down a notch. Because what you are asking about is exactly what you are doing in my book, which is engaging hate speech pure and simple.
I understand that. But correct me if I am wrong, are you not also defending Islam in attacking their perception of injustice?
I asked yesterday if you condemn Hamas, and never got a response that I saw....Could you answer that? I have to hit the road now but will check Friday. Thanks.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Also if you asked me if I condemn Hamas, I didn't read it. Can you provide me a link? But to go ahead and answer the question I don't like them, and they are running a despicable form of government.
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Hate speech undermines democracy because it stirs up nationalism and jingoism and usually doesn't contain any political message. So as a civil society we have to decide whether it is better to place a higher value on hate speech than on the value of privacy, security, equality, or the prevention of harm to people and property. If society chooses the former over the later then I don't think it's possible to have or live in a civil society.
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