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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    so at this point are you publicly saying that you back Coons?

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    Erm, no, I'm not quite sure where you got that from.

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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

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    Wait until you repubs find that mood of the country isn't anti-democrat but anti-incumbent.
    The Tea Party is showing us that viable candidates exist....Dems better start worrying in both cases.
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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Erm, no, I'm not quite sure where you got that from.
    Are you not voting then? I only ask Dav, because it sure sounds like you are lining up against O'Donnell even though the RSCC is now behind her.


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    PS, Wait, you're from VA. You can't vote for her. So then your larger point is that we must be more like liberals to get elected in Blue States?
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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you not voting then? I only ask Dav, because it sure sounds like you are lining up against O'Donnell even though the RSCC is now behind her.


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    PS, Wait, you're from VA. You can't vote for her. So then your larger point is that we must be more like liberals to get elected in Blue States?
    His larger point is principle doesn't matter, winning does.
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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    It would be pretty shocking.

    Public Policy Polling: Coons up big

    Not an insurmountable lead, and it'll probably tighten as the divisive primary becomes a thing of the past. But it would still take a shocker to win.
    Oh, I fully agree its a rather long shot. I just don't think its an impossible or unthinkable thing for her to do 20% better than she had in 2008 by the end. Likely? Absolutely not. But not impossible.

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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you not voting then? I only ask Dav, because it sure sounds like you are lining up against O'Donnell even though the RSCC is now behind her.

    j-mac

    PS, Wait, you're from VA. You can't vote for her. So then your larger point is that we must be more like liberals to get elected in Blue States?
    I think his point is its better to have a majority, even if enough of that majority doesn't vote in line with the parties views 30-40% of the time that it could cause problems, is better than not having a majority and thus running moderate republicans rather than solid republicans in blue states where there's a decent shot of winning said state that way.

    My issue is...that's the exact strategy we were doing for the past decade which happened to be the time I've been most unhappy with how Republicans in power have acted and been, so I'm not exactly keen on it. I'm willing to detox in hopes of being fully healthy rather than just continue to feed the addiction in hopes of not having any extremely bad days but realizing there's not going to be really any good days either. The latter is Dav's preference.

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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think his point is its better to have a majority, even if enough of that majority doesn't vote in line with the parties views 30-40% of the time that it could cause problems, is better than not having a majority and thus running moderate republicans rather than solid republicans in blue states where there's a decent shot of winning said state that way.

    My issue is...that's the exact strategy we were doing for the past decade which happened to be the time I've been most unhappy with how Republicans in power have acted and been, so I'm not exactly keen on it. I'm willing to detox in hopes of being fully healthy rather than just continue to feed the addiction in hopes of not having any extremely bad days but realizing there's not going to be really any good days either. The latter is Dav's preference.
    That's a pretty odd and irrelevant comparison, there.

    Your problem, I think, is assuming that the GOP should have one single strategy everywhere. It's great that they are knocking off establishment incumbents in favor of more conservative challengers, as they've been doing in Utah and Alaska and Florida and even Pennsylvania. But it's foolish to think that this is a good idea everywhere; just because Florida will vote for a Marco Rubio doesn't mean Delaware will. And if this strategy had been applied to Massachussetts back in January, Scott Brown (a moderate) would never have won, and that whole debacle would never have happened. So just because Republicans should act differently than they have for the last 10 years doesn't mean that acknowledging basic political facts was what went wrong with them.

    If I'm going to vote based on principle, I'm going to cast the vote that will make the officeholer someone with principles closest to mine. In Delaware, that would have meant voting for Castle, because the alternative would be to vote for the Democrat to win. Frankly, I could see why I might vote for O'Donnell there if I saw Castle and Coons as being almost exactly the same... but there is a huge difference between them.

    There's also the fact that if conservatives are going to nominate a Tea Party candidate, especially in a purple or blue state where it's a risky proposition, they should make sure it's a good Tea Party candidate... which O'Donnell is not. It's bad enough what's happening with Angle in Nevada, and Nevada is significantly less blue than Delaware. And as far as I can tell, Castle is a fairly principled moderate, more Scott Brown-esque than Arlen Specter-esque. If Scott Brown can be considered a "Tea Party" candidate, I don't see why Castle can't be, especially since many conservative complaints about him (his stances on abortion, gun rights, Bush's conduct during the Iraq War) have little or nothing to do with what the Tea Party supposedly stands for.

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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    I haven't been really closely following this race but being originally from Delaware it has been of some interest. I so not know what Castle stands for but have heard that he voted in favor of a bill that forwarded the impeachment of President Bush to the judiciary committee and is for Cap and Trade. Either issue makes him someone I would find it impossible to vote for under any circumstances. I know O'Donnell stands for Tea Party principles in general, the most significant of which is to restore some integrity to the political process. I am not voting in Delaware but would vote for O'Donnell on this issue alone as neither party seems to think it important.

    Now, for those Republicans who have made post primary negative remarks about the duly elected candidate of their party in Delaware, they are not Republicans and should be sent back to the RINO mud bog where they belong. THEY are what is wrong with the political process. Their unbelievable arrogance and obvious spite toward the will of the people is disgraceful, and they should be removed from any position of influence in the Republican Party immediately and without compromise. Those characteristics are quite coveted in the Democrat party. Perhaps they can find a place there.
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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Her face has got SILF potential... What's going on downstairs?

    (let's see who casts the first stone my way)

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    Re: O'Donnell wins Delaware

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Her face has got SILF potential... What's going on downstairs?

    (let's see who casts the first stone my way)
    *stone incoming*
    Wait, you think her face looks like a sandwich?

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