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O'Donnell wins Delaware

This is great news for the Democrats. :mrgreen:

We know deep down Dems are frightened.

Remember Dead Kennedy. If his seat can swing, any seat can swing as Obi has larded on even more incompetence and irritation since his DK's leaving the Senate.

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Just remember, in a democracy we all get the government we deserve.
 
We know deep down Dems are frightened.

Remember Dead Kennedy. If his seat can swing, any seat can swing as Obi has larded on even more incompetence and irritation since his DK's leaving the Senate.

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Well if the Democrats run a race like Martha Coakley did in MA, they could well lose it. Hopefully, they have learned their lesson and don't assume they have it won.
 
If I was a Delaware voter I would vote for her now that I've seen her little video. I need to be saved from masturbation!

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Where do these morons come from? :roll:
 
Argueing difintion doesn't mean anything, you know what he meant. The representatives are the people who their voters deserve.

I always correct that mistake. Too many people think we live in a Democracy.
 
Would I like to see the Republicans take back the Senate and/or House this year? Absolutely.

But to me I'm not so short sighted. This is a long term thing for me, and that's why I'm happy with this. In the LONG term its important for the Republicans, and this country, to get back to traditional consevative values. Not just lip service to them during election times, not just when they're popular, but as a good solid foundation. And its going to take incidents like this and in the little district in NY last year where the establishment is bucked and taken down a peg by the will of the conservative people of this country.

Will it result in a landslide of wins right off? Maybe not, but I don't really care about that as long as despite the losses the resolve of the conservative movement stays on. The more the GOP see's that by god their base wants REAL conservatives and they either need to support those people or realize they're going to keep losing, the better things will go. Once the GOP as a national body accepts this, embraces it, and actually moves forward with it then the chance for change happens.

These are the first shots of a long war for the soul of the Republican Party and the idea of conservatism.
 
This is plain and simple politics. When AMericans vote for a president we typically get a person that just shy of half the people dont want. Over half of the conservative voters in the state of delaware would rather their big spending big government politicians be democrats so they nominated the Tea Party candidate. If she wins, they get what they wanted. If she loses, they still get what they wanted.

The Republican party has been served notice...you dont get to play party politics without consequences. People have been leaving the party because of their fiscal irresponsibility since the middle of Bush's presidency. Party politics have put us in massive debt. Anyone on either side of the aisle (or ideology) that is gleeful about partisan party politics is an idiot.
 
I always correct that mistake. Too many people think we live in a Democracy.

Like I said, its a meaningless debate because everyone understands how the system works to the degree that we know its not a direct democracy. Heck I could even argue that the United States is in fact a democracy, a representative democracy, I won't but cut the snobbery.
 
Like I said, its a meaningless debate because everyone understands how the system works to the degree that we know its not a direct democracy. Heck I could even argue that the United States is in fact a democracy, a representative democracy, I won't but cut the snobbery.

No, it's not. You are completely off base.

We live in a Representative Republic, which while using democratic principles to function, is not a democracy. You're comments are exactly why I bring this up so often.
 
No, it's not. You are completely off base.

We live in a Representative Republic, which while using democratic principles to function, is not a democracy. You're comments are exactly why I bring this up so often.

The point is that its not important so long as everyone knows what you are talking about.
 
Two years ago in 2008 O'Donnell ran for Senate, same as she's doing now, and lost with only 34% of the vote.

I wouldnt hold out much hope on a 20% change, especially considering how Blue Delaware is. But she did surprise me by winning the primary.

Really? I don't think it'd be THAT shocking really. Look at a few things...

First, the overall attitude of the country was far more on the anti-republican side of things than the anti-democrat side I think it'd be relatively accurate to say is the majority currently. Throw in on top of that a whole heap load of generalized anti-incumbant feeling.

Second, it was a Presidential Election year where you had an extremely popular Democratic candidate running that drove record turnout of a large amount of groups that traditionally vote democratic.

Third, she was running against the guy that was set to be VP on the ticket with said extremely popular Dem. candidate.

Fourth, she was running against a long time incumbant who was well entrenched in the state.

Would a 20 point swing be difficult? Definitely. But there are numerous reasonable factors to suggest that a large swing is definitely at least possible
 
Not to mention that living in that area for 20 + years {Harford County MD} has become unrealistic thanks to demo policies of tax, tax, tax....Cost of living is out of control, and people can't afford to give their kids a reasonable start at success.

this is on reason we moved south....Best decision ever!


j-mac
 
Really? I don't think it'd be THAT shocking really. Look at a few things...

First, the overall attitude of the country was far more on the anti-republican side of things than the anti-democrat side I think it'd be relatively accurate to say is the majority currently. Throw in on top of that a whole heap load of generalized anti-incumbant feeling.

Second, it was a Presidential Election year where you had an extremely popular Democratic candidate running that drove record turnout of a large amount of groups that traditionally vote democratic.

Third, she was running against the guy that was set to be VP on the ticket with said extremely popular Dem. candidate.

Fourth, she was running against a long time incumbant who was well entrenched in the state.

Would a 20 point swing be difficult? Definitely. But there are numerous reasonable factors to suggest that a large swing is definitely at least possible

It would be pretty shocking.

Public Policy Polling: Coons up big
Republicans more than likely cost themselves a Senate seat last night. Chris Coons begins the general election in Delaware with a 50-34 lead over Christine O'Donnell. Mike Castle would have led Coons by a 45-35 margin.

Not an insurmountable lead, and it'll probably tighten as the divisive primary becomes a thing of the past. But it would still take a shocker to win.
 
What are you on mate?

He's just explaining that O'Donnel probably won't win.

How is that backing someone?

I want to know where he stands. Look, all this BS that repubs have to be more like demo's in order to win is just that, pure BS. American's see what destruction demo's have done while in power, and now you're gonna see real change. Not just switching of the seats mind you buy an accountability of promises.


j-mac
 
so at this point are you publicly saying that you back Coons?

j-mac

Erm, no, I'm not quite sure where you got that from.
 
Wait until you repubs find that mood of the country isn't anti-democrat but anti-incumbent.

The Tea Party is showing us that viable candidates exist....Dems better start worrying in both cases.
 
Erm, no, I'm not quite sure where you got that from.

Are you not voting then? I only ask Dav, because it sure sounds like you are lining up against O'Donnell even though the RSCC is now behind her.


j-mac


PS, Wait, you're from VA. You can't vote for her. So then your larger point is that we must be more like liberals to get elected in Blue States?
 
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Are you not voting then? I only ask Dav, because it sure sounds like you are lining up against O'Donnell even though the RSCC is now behind her.


j-mac


PS, Wait, you're from VA. You can't vote for her. So then your larger point is that we must be more like liberals to get elected in Blue States?

His larger point is principle doesn't matter, winning does.
 
It would be pretty shocking.

Public Policy Polling: Coons up big

Not an insurmountable lead, and it'll probably tighten as the divisive primary becomes a thing of the past. But it would still take a shocker to win.

Oh, I fully agree its a rather long shot. I just don't think its an impossible or unthinkable thing for her to do 20% better than she had in 2008 by the end. Likely? Absolutely not. But not impossible.
 
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