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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    So then. You're apparently okay with passing Obamacare, Cap and Trade, more stimuluses, more welfare, tax increases, and goodness knows what else... as long as it means there aren't any damned dirty RINOs in the Senate. Hey, the GOP may be a permanent minority helpless to do anything as liberal bill after liberal bill passes, but at least they'll be full of conservatives in a permanent powerless minority!
    With a RHINO in there there is no difference on those issues then if a democrat is there. The point is we need conservatives that will stand on conservative principles

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The electorate in this case is very blue and the TP vs Establishment Repub are in their primary.
    This si a VERY good point. It's a BLUE state. And the polls are showing there is a surge for the Conservative leaning voters and a depression for the democrat voters. This makes now the BEST shot at removing Rino's we've seen in years. I'm all for taking this chance and running with it.
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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They won't be able to pass all that Dav, they don't have 60 seats now, and they WILL lose the House.
    I'm not just talking about this one particular race though.

    You said it's better to have a Democrat than to have a RINO (i.e. moderate Republican). Apply that logic, and you're basically saying that, if the choice is between Democratic control of the Senate (for sake of example, let's say a 60-seat majority) and Republican control held up only with the help of RINOs, you'd rather let the Dems have their 60 seats and basically be able to do as they wish.

    Of course, the stakes are already high in this particular race, as any chances the GOP would ever have of controlling the Senate relied on winning in Delaware. Nominate O'Donnell, and those chances are gone. And the Senate votes on many things that the House doesn't (appointments, most notably), so the stakes are pretty high already.

    Besides, what good is are a few sometimes Republicans who VOTE with teh Dem's on big issues?
    Better than Democrats is what good they are. Especially Democrats from a state as far-left as Delaware.

    Besides, the guy is pro-guncontrol, that right there makes him worth knocking out.
    Oh puh-lease... he's bad on one issue, therefore let's give the seat to a Democrat who's also bad on that issue, and every other issue as well. Come on, one issue is enough to swing your vote one way or the other? Even when that issue isn't going to have much traction at the federal level anyways?

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This si a VERY good point. It's a BLUE state. And the polls are showing there is a surge for the Conservative leaning voters and a depression for the democrat voters. This makes now the BEST shot at removing Rino's we've seen in years. I'm all for taking this chance and running with it.
    The primary will show only part of those that want change since independents can not vote

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This si a VERY good point. It's a BLUE state. And the polls are showing there is a surge for the Conservative leaning voters and a depression for the democrat voters. This makes now the BEST shot at removing Rino's we've seen in years. I'm all for taking this chance and running with it.
    Who would have thought Scott Brown would take the Dead Kennedy's seat?
    Who would have put money on Brown and expected to get any return?
    Who would have thought they would see a grassroots uprising that actually has been vocal and active in protesting the Leftward Leap... this after the Cultoid fainting show that occurred in 2008?

    Now is the time. If not now, when?

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Who would have thought Scott Brown would take the Dead Kennedy's seat?
    Who would have put money on Brown and expected to get any return?
    Who would have thought they would see a grassroots uprising that actually has been vocal and active in protesting the Leftward Leap... this after the Cultoid fainting show that occurred in 2008?
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    ...You do realize that Scott Brown is a moderate who may even be to the left of Castle, right?

    By all means, conservatives should have labeled him a RINO and tried to get Coakley elected instead of him. Using logic in this thread, that is.

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Polls show Reid and Boxer in close races. Dems are in trouble

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Everyone is complaining that this guy isn't conservative enough for them, however no one is praising the man for listening to his voters. I think everyone is still forgetting the purpose of electing someone, its to represent the voters interests and beliefs in whatever office he's being elected to.

    Personally I find it a bit hypocritical for many conservatives in here, who constantly say they want a smaller Federal government and how the Federal government should keep its noses out of things better left to the states or local authorities. And the reason for this is always the same the government isn't efficient enough, it doesn't understand what people want, its forcing a way of life or some change the people don't want, there's too much control, etc etc

    Yet when you have a senator, who represents his voters well and has views similar to theirs but disagrees with yours, you want a National level organization, the Republican Party, to come in and change everything, because in your opinion they don't believe the right things. You accuse the government of trying to enforce a national sameness, yet you are doing the same thing.

    A political party, by its nature, wants some degree of sameness however its members should be keen to local politics and local differences. So there's room in the Republican party for varying degrees of leftism and rightism, even though as a whole the entire Republican party is to the right of the spectrum. However what I'm seeing recently is a movement by many to decrease and decrease the differences in political opinions among members of the Republican Party or the conservative movenment in general including the Tea Party and Republican party.

    Now thats all just opinion, there's no way to factually say the Republican Party is becoming too narrow in its focus, its all just opinion and perspective. However thats my concern.

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Personally I find it a bit hypocritical for many conservatives in here, who constantly say they want a smaller Federal government and how the Federal government should keep its noses out of things better left to the states or local authorities. And the reason for this is always the same the government isn't efficient enough, it doesn't understand what people want, its forcing a way of life or some change the people don't want, there's too much control, etc etc

    Yet when you have a senator, who represents his voters well and has views similar to theirs but disagrees with yours, you want a National level organization, the Republican Party, to come in and change everything, because in your opinion they don't believe the right things. You accuse the government of trying to enforce a national sameness, yet you are doing the same thing.
    if you're trying to characterize my thought, then, with all due respect, you're spinning yourself dizzy

    the conservatives i'm hearing are calling for a smaller govt to allow individual americans more freedom over their own lives

    mike castle is not as into that as most of us are

    that's all

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    Re: Delaware Senate Race: A Kamikaze Republican and the Tea Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    ...You do realize that Scott Brown is a moderate who may even be to the left of Castle, right?

    By all means, conservatives should have labeled him a RINO and tried to get Coakley elected instead of him. Using logic in this thread, that is.
    I did from the word go, I've been mocking calls for him to run for the 2012 (or any) Presidential nomination. HOWEVER. He's far right compared to Kennedy, and the INSULT of having his seat go to a Republican.... that's just DEEEELICIOUS.

    However, in the next primary, if it's a choice between him or a Conservative, I'd most likely go with the Conservative. Cause I put principle over party power.
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