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    Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Cuba announced Monday it will cast off at least half a million state workers by early next year and reduce restrictions on private enterprise to help them find new jobs the most dramatic step yet in President Raul Castro's push to radically remake employment on the communist-run island.


    Castro suggested during a nationally televised address on Easter Sunday that as many as 1 million Cuban workers about one in five may be redundant.
    But the government had not previously laid out specific plans to slash its work force, and the speed and scope of the coming cutbacks were astounding. Cuba's official work force is 5.1 million meaning nearly 10 percent of all employees could soon be out of a government job.

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    Eventually the state will only employ people in "indispensable" areas such as farming, construction, industry, law enforcement and education.
    The Associated Press: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Huge news out of Cuba that will have an incredible impact on the future of that country. It will certainly create short-term difficulties for the 10-20% of the population that will lose their jobs, but if this leads to increased economic freedom, it should help the country as a whole in the long term.
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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    This is in connection with the massive cooperative movement that the Cuban state is attempting to nurture. Basically what this means is that workers who were once considered employed by the state would now be employed by these worker-owned cooperatives which would be heavily regulated by the state. So in essence this isn't really a reduction in state employees as much as it is a transfer of employees from the strictly "state" sector to the "cooperative" sector.

    In other words, "private enterprise" here does not mean what it traditionally means, nor does it mean that the unemployment rate would necessarily increase.
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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    This is in connection with the massive cooperative movement that the Cuban state is attempting to nurture. Basically what this means is that workers who were once considered employed by the state would now be employed by these worker-owned cooperatives which would be heavily regulated by the state. So in essence this isn't really a reduction in state employees as much as it is a transfer of employees from the strictly "state" sector to the "cooperative" sector.

    In other words, "private enterprise" here does not mean what it traditionally means, nor does it mean that the unemployment rate would necessarily increase.
    According to the articles I've seen, it's certainly possible that some people could move to these cooperatives but it's by no means a guaranteed thing. It doesn't appear that they're in place yet, nor does it appear that the state or the workers involved have any idea of exactly what they'd be doing.
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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Perhaps. I haven't really been following this and have really just been skimming these articles. I really don't see the Cuban state simply letting these workers go unemployed, given their record (after all, they've been employing these redundant workers for decades). My guess is that they're trying to trim the fat of the costs for employing these redundant workers while at the same time trying to shift towards the cooperatives to cut state costs and provide for more autonomous organization on a local level which would be more flexible in dealing with supply/demand shifts (provided of course a balance with a centralized regulatory apparatus) and economic fluctuations.
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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The Associated Press: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Huge news out of Cuba that will have an incredible impact on the future of that country. It will certainly create short-term difficulties for the 10-20% of the population that will lose their jobs, but if this leads to increased economic freedom, it should help the country as a whole in the long term.
    On the plus side...worse case scenario there is always the Cuban citizens version of free healthcare...

    and ample opportunities for free meals...

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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    and ample opportunities for free meals...
    An American gets lunch out of the dumpster:



    The American healthcare system at its finest:

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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    An American gets lunch out of the dumpster:



    The American healthcare system at its finest:

    Ummmmm...

    Doooood...

    your hospital picture...

    its from Cuba...

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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Ummmmm...

    Doooood...

    your hospital picture...

    its from Cuba...
    Nope, it's from the US.

    Here's some American prisoners:



    Let me know when my point gets through your thick, dense partisan skull.
    Last edited by Khayembii Communique; 09-14-10 at 01:26 AM.
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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Nope, it's from the US.

    Here's some American prisoners:



    Let me know when my point gets through your thick, dense partisan skull.
    You dont check the properties of the pictures you post...do you...

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    Re: Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries

    You dont check the properties of the pictures you post...do you...
    Oh damn you're right I should start basing all of my beliefs on what the URL of photos tells me.


    Here you go!

    The link very conclusively says that it's a US hospital so it must be true, right? Right?!
    Last edited by Khayembii Communique; 09-14-10 at 01:32 AM.
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