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    Tea Partiers Bring Cause to Washington

    WASHINGTON — Thousands of Tea Party supporters marched to the foot of Capitol Hill on Sunday, declaring their determination to topple the Democratic majority in Congress on Election Day.

    “If we do not succeed in November, all that once was good and great about this country could someday be gone,” warned Representative Mike Pence of Indiana, the chairman of the House Republican Conference. He added, “Let’s give them a November that they never forget.”
    The Republican base is riled up, for sure, but is is really a Republican base? Many at the rally are also pissed at the GOP. It is my opinion that a few there showed their disgust of Bush by voting for Obama. It is also my opinion that those same few will show their disgust of Obama by voting Republican this year, and in 2012.

    But what of the rally itself? This can be shown by the signs that were displayed, and what people were saying.

    1) Said one member, "Not only should we be listened to, we should be shown deference". Whoa! Shown deference? That will never happen, but you will certainly be listened to. In order to get people to listen harder, which is something that could approach deference, you need to get the word out, and that takes work. Simply making demands won't cut it. But it looks like the sleeves are rolled up, and people are doing everything they can to convince others that the status quo is no longer acceptable. I support that.

    2) Warning those who attended that "Republican elitists who see us only as a vote". I agree, and this is an excellent talking point. The Tea Party Express attempted to hijack the movement, and they failed. Being vigilant against other hijacking attempts will keep the Tea Party movement as it was intended, as a movement, not a group of political hacks. I support this too.

    3) "An end to bailouts, once and for all". Hell yes. I'm with you on this. The banksters need to get off the government welfare tit, and earn their own way, just like the rest of us have to.

    4) "An end to Marxist income taxes". A bit over the top, but I like it. After all, regular people are being taxed way too much, in order to support the government's addiction to spending. The government needs to be weaned, and fast.

    5) "Uncle Sam wants you to speak English". I agree completely. In America, English is the official language, and those who don't speak it are doomed to spending the remainder of their lives with a leaf blower in their hands.

    6) "Obama Creates Jobs at Ground Zero". Uncalled for. Obama may support the property rights of ALL Americans, Muslims included, but it is the City of New York, along with New York's private sector, that is creating the jobs NEAR, NOT AT, Ground Zero. Most New Yorkers don't have a problem with it. Everybody else should just butt out. It's none of your damn business.

    7) "Don’t Tread on Me". Oh yea, that goes without saying. They should have been showing that flag during the Bush administration too, but a little late is better than never, just as long as they don't put that flag away in a drawer when the next Republican president is elected.

    8) "We don’t want a Kenyan reject"

    9) "By ballot or bullet"

    These two show that there are, indeed, a few nutters in the Tea Party movement. But they don't represent the majority of them. Let those two find a home in the kicked out Tea Party Express.

    10) "Government is in too much of our lives". And on that note, I will end my post without comment, considering how obvious this is.

    Article is here.
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    Phew, that's quite a laundry list, Danarhea. But I would argue that many of those screeching for smaller government and less taxes are actually paid shills for corporate interests and that most of the anger at government is contrived by the very people who made a fortune off the government. This excert from the NYT article is proof enough of that....

    " The event, organized by FreedomWorks, a libertarian advocacy group that has helped the Tea Party grow, was a repeat of a march on Washington that was a defining moment for the nascent movement a year ago. And it was intended as a political bookend to the religious revival that Glenn Beck called for at the Lincoln Memorial two weeks ago, drawing many of the same people...."

    Who funds Freedom Works? The Koch brothers do. The contrived anger at government is no more a grass roots movement than the well paid oil and banking lobbyists are. Doesn't it seem like a contradiction that the people who are saying government is too big are the same people who want the government to spend more on tax cuts for the wealthy?

    The American people say they want the government to stimulate the economy and to create jobs. But how is the government supposed to do that without spending? Isn't that kinda like the protest sign that said, "Keep government hands off my social security?" That alone suggests that someone is deliberately trying to confuse the American people with anti-government propaganda in order to get Americans to vote against their own best interests.

    Well, it just so happens that "someone" is one of the wealthiest men in the world and is spending millions to destroy the country that helped to make him wealthy in the first place, just so he won't have to pay fair wages, protect the environment or pay taxes on his multi-billion a year profits that he makes off public land. Now how does that agenda benefit anyone who isn't Charles or David Koch?
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    Re: Tea Partiers Bring Cause to Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Phew, that's quite a laundry list, Danarhea. But I would argue that many of those screeching for smaller government and less taxes are actually paid shills for corporate interests and that most of the anger at government is contrived by the very people who made a fortune off the government. This excert from the NYT article is proof enough of that....

    " The event, organized by FreedomWorks, a libertarian advocacy group that has helped the Tea Party grow, was a repeat of a march on Washington that was a defining moment for the nascent movement a year ago. And it was intended as a political bookend to the religious revival that Glenn Beck called for at the Lincoln Memorial two weeks ago, drawing many of the same people...."

    Who funds Freedom Works? The Koch brothers do. The contrived anger at government is no more a grass roots movement than the well paid oil and banking lobbyists are. Doesn't it seem like a contradiction that the people who are saying government is too big are the same people who want the government to spend more on tax cuts for the wealthy?

    The American people say they want the government to stimulate the economy and to create jobs. But how is the government supposed to do that without spending? Isn't that kinda like the protest sign that said, "Keep government hands off my social security?" That alone suggests that someone is deliberately trying to confuse the American people with anti-government propaganda in order to get Americans to vote against their own best interests.

    Well, it just so happens that "someone" is one of the wealthiest men in the world and is spending millions to destroy the country that helped to make him wealthy in the first place, just so he won't have to pay fair wages, protect the environment or pay taxes on his multi-billion a year profits that he makes off public land. Now how does that agenda benefit anyone who isn't Charles or David Koch?
    The Koch Brothers for the right might hopefully counter balance a little of the George soros from the left.
    You guys who keep bringing up the Koch brothers should be embarrassed as long as you have Soros funding your progressive projects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The Koch Brothers for the right might hopefully counter balance a little of the George soros from the left.
    You guys who keep bringing up the Koch brothers should be embarrassed as long as you have Soros funding your progressive projects.
    The Koch's make Soros look like an alter boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Phew, that's quite a laundry list, Danarhea. But I would argue that many of those screeching for smaller government and less taxes are actually paid shills for corporate interests and that most of the anger at government is contrived by the very people who made a fortune off the government. This excert from the NYT article is proof enough of that....

    " The event, organized by FreedomWorks, a libertarian advocacy group that has helped the Tea Party grow, was a repeat of a march on Washington that was a defining moment for the nascent movement a year ago. And it was intended as a political bookend to the religious revival that Glenn Beck called for at the Lincoln Memorial two weeks ago, drawing many of the same people...."

    Who funds Freedom Works? The Koch brothers do. The contrived anger at government is no more a grass roots movement than the well paid oil and banking lobbyists are. Doesn't it seem like a contradiction that the people who are saying government is too big are the same people who want the government to spend more on tax cuts for the wealthy?

    The American people say they want the government to stimulate the economy and to create jobs. But how is the government supposed to do that without spending? Isn't that kinda like the protest sign that said, "Keep government hands off my social security?" That alone suggests that someone is deliberately trying to confuse the American people with anti-government propaganda in order to get Americans to vote against their own best interests.

    Well, it just so happens that "someone" is one of the wealthiest men in the world and is spending millions to destroy the country that helped to make him wealthy in the first place, just so he won't have to pay fair wages, protect the environment or pay taxes on his multi-billion a year profits that he makes off public land. Now how does that agenda benefit anyone who isn't Charles or David Koch?

    You got beat down and thread banned the last time you trotted this ridiculous **** out. Do you really want to go down that road again?

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    Re: Tea Partiers Bring Cause to Washington

    I believe the Tea Party at it's core are indeed out to have our Constitution Restored and the law of the land supported without some Socialist/Marxist at the helm try to run the ship of State onto the rocks for his own ideological concerns.

    I further believe that the core of this movement may be Republican , there are people of every Party are beginning to wake up to the danger we find ourselves in today. They, or we are very diverse group ethnically and it has nothing to do with hate or racism, except from the 5th column Lame Stream Media and the Leftist politicians who are running scared.

    I support this movement 100%.

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    Re: Tea Partiers Bring Cause to Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The Koch's make Soros look like an alter boy.
    Google him and get back to me.
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    Re: Tea Partiers Bring Cause to Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Google him and get back to me.
    What's going to happen is Moot will vomit forth some articles about how mean and evil the Kochs are, make some wild, unsupported accusations, then get all pissy when we laugh at her ridiculous assertion that they are doing something remotely different than any other 527 in the country.

    Get ready for an epic FAIL.

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    Re: Tea Partiers Bring Cause to Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Google him and get back to me.
    No thanks, this thread is about the phoney tea party movement. Feel free to start a new thread if you want to talk about Soros and then maybe I might get back to you. Or, maybe not.

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    I believe the tea party at it's core is out to destroy the Constitution and the protection of individual rights to favor corporate concerns. Those that believe it is a grass roots movement are being duped and their ideological concerns make them an easy target for the Koch's corporate interests who can afford to spend millions putting propaganda into their heads.

    I further believe that the core of this so called movement is the John Birch Society because the tea party propaganda is exactly the same and that is why I oppose this fake tea party movement 100%.

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    Re: Tea Partiers Bring Cause to Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No thanks, this thread is about the phoney tea party movement. Feel free to start a new thread if you want to talk about Soros and then maybe I might get back to you. Or, maybe not.

    ***
    I believe the tea party at it's core is out to destroy the Constitution and the protection of individual rights to favor corporate concerns. Those that believe it is a grass roots movement are being duped and their ideological concerns make them an easy target for the Koch's corporate interests who can afford to spend millions putting propaganda into their heads.

    I further believe that the core of this so called movement is the John Birch Society because the tea party propaganda is exactly the same and that is why I oppose this fake tea party movement 100%.
    You just can't prove it.

    Sucks, don't it?

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