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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    So after getting proven wrong that Muslim governments have been combating terrorists within their jurisdictions
    First - Loud mouthed Muslim minorities do not make a "significant proportion"...lol

    The policy of "the carrot and the stick" that rejects terrorism will be part of the global economic system. Those that aren't will be isolated, but **** that.

    It's useless to haggle over who had the most ties, or the best developed ties, with, the likes of i.e. Al Qaeda. The fact is that Al Qaeda will do business with any muslim body who wants to hit us. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" very much appears to be their mode of thinking, and it is stupid for us to haggle over who is more of an enemy than whoever else. Iran, Iraq, Syria, elements in Pakistan, elements in Saudi, elements in the Gulf states, elements in northern Africa, elements in SE Asia... We have plenty of enemies, and they all want us dead.

    And who we choose to eradicate and when is simply a matter of choice of the NCA. To try to justify one over the other in terms of when is like trying to get a kid to eat the broccoli or the spinach first.

    you decide to post an irrelevant article relating to an Iraqi soldier firing upon American soldiers. All the while leaving this part out:
    Indeed, relevant.....The Iranian/Badr influence is large enough that its a gamble to trust any ISF

    I'm still waiting for what you meant "by commission".
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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yes...these are the petty ones...not the graphic ones of the beheadings, the Islamists teaching their children to slaughter innocents...you know...the truly bloody and gory ones. These ones are of 'moderates'. And in these petty videos and many many others, educated intelligent modern men and women discuss men beating women in the name of Allah on a regular basis.
    Association fallacy much? those islamists teaching their children such tings is a fraction of a fraction of the Muslim world...

    all teh qualified scholars in saudi arabia (who are opressed btw by the filthy rich royal family who bathes in oil money and sleep with arab women) have all condemns the killing of innocent lives, suidice bombing, and the torching of other holy sanctuaries...

    so please, the quran makes it clear that hatred and the murdering is 100% forbidden....No one man can be judge, jury, and execution...

    now not to long ago, America dropped 2000 pound bombs on Iraq killing thousand of civilians in their sleep... is it fair for me to say this is a "crusade"

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by GodsWrath View Post
    Association fallacy much? those islamists teaching their children such tings is a fraction of a fraction of the Muslim world...

    all teh qualified scholars in saudi arabia (who are opressed btw by the filthy rich royal family who bathes in oil money and sleep with arab women) have all condemns the killing of innocent lives, suidice bombing, and the torching of other holy sanctuaries...

    so please, the quran makes it clear that hatred and the murdering is 100% forbidden....No one man can be judge, jury, and execution...

    now not to long ago, America dropped 2000 pound bombs on Iraq killing thousand of civilians in their sleep... is it fair for me to say this is a "crusade"
    2/3 is still a 'fraction'...

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by GodsWrath View Post
    Association fallacy much? those islamists teaching their children such tings is a fraction of a fraction of the Muslim world...

    all teh qualified scholars in saudi arabia (who are opressed btw by the filthy rich royal family who bathes in oil money and sleep with arab women) have all condemns the killing of innocent lives, suidice bombing, and the torching of other holy sanctuaries...

    so please, the quran makes it clear that hatred and the murdering is 100% forbidden....No one man can be judge, jury, and execution...

    now not to long ago, America dropped 2000 pound bombs on Iraq killing thousand of civilians in their sleep... is it fair for me to say this is a "crusade"
    Can you name one Muslim-run country that is not having some form of terrorism problem?

    It doesn't matter how big the area of contention is, it is affecting the entire world.

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    First - Loud mouthed Muslim minorities do not make a "significant proportion"...lol
    Who are you to say? And they are not a minority. Moderate Muslim voices greatly outnumber those extremists.
    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    It's useless to haggle over who had the most ties, or the best developed ties, with, the likes of i.e. Al Qaeda. The fact is that Al Qaeda will do business with any muslim body who wants to hit us. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" very much appears to be their mode of thinking, and it is stupid for us to haggle over who is more of an enemy than whoever else. Iran, Iraq, Syria, elements in Pakistan, elements in Saudi, elements in the Gulf states, elements in northern Africa, elements in SE Asia... We have plenty of enemies, and they all want us dead.

    And who we choose to eradicate and when is simply a matter of choice of the NCA. To try to justify one over the other in terms of when is like trying to get a kid to eat the broccoli or the spinach first.
    I have no idea WTF you are rambling about here. Do you have a point? Mind getting to it?
    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Indeed, relevant.....The Iranian/Badr influence is large enough that its a gamble to trust any ISF
    Well then you must be disappointed to hear about the current US arms deal to Saudi Arabia for a record $60bn. And Saudi Arabia is the most strict and conservative of the Islamic states.
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    So how does that tie in to what you said here:
    "The REAL issue is when the many allow the few to define them by commission"

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Can you name one Muslim-run country that is not having some form of terrorism problem?

    It doesn't matter how big the area of contention is, it is affecting the entire world.
    Tunisia, the Western Sahara, the Maldives, Djibouti, the Gambia, Mali, Oman, Guinea, Bahrain, Albania, United Arab Emirates, Brunei, Malaysia, Burkina Faso... I should stop huh? Starting to name countries you probably have never heard of it.

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Can you name one Muslim-run country that is not having some form of terrorism problem?

    It doesn't matter how big the area of contention is, it is affecting the entire world.
    When a christian gets cornered, they turn to politics....

    none of these so called "muslim" countries have a qualified Mufti guiding the country...there is no true Shariah in any of these muslim countries... as far as christians living in the country? Egypt...there are coptic christians that have been living there for thousands of years now...

    Syria, there are orthodox christians there living too..with the same prosecution that muslims get...stop pointing ur fingers through political issues...

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Indonesia is our closest neighbour. Some of their islands is just a 30 minute ferry ride from here. That article is nothing new. Couple of years ago the radicals burned many christian churches and killied many christians. Their terrorists been targeting american interests in singapore. Lately the police found a map of the planned targets when indonesian police raided a terrorist hideout. They have a population of 235 million and we are just 5 million. We still maintain peace with them and remain vigilant.

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Attacks against Muslims in the US has also risen since 9/11. Hell ignorant moronic American's attacked anyone who looked different after 9/11 which resulted in the murder of a Sikh among many attacks and murders. But I am guessing that is being ignored by the usual suspects..
    Your hate for America and Americans knows no bounds.
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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    So your point is we must focus on latinos and not afghanistan? How come it seems to me there is more bickering than actual logical arguments.
    Um, No....You missed the point all together. The Media along with the faux outraged left such as yourself want to paint those opposing the construction of the GZ Mosque on that particular site as racists, and suffering from some made up phobia. The report contradicts you.


    And about Napolitano....ONE guy (a right wing "preacher") almost started world war 3 thanks to his utter disrespect for over 1 billion people's religion.
    And what exactly makes him "right wing"? Because he is some preacher? I'd say you know nothing of the man's politics. And while we are at it, disrespect? You want to talk about disrespect of Islam? how about the 19 Muslims that on a clear crisp day took out 3,000 innocent lives in the name of Islam? How about the Imam Rauf that threatens violence from radicals if he is not allowed to dismiss the will of the American people and build his Mosque of Taquyya on that particular site? No disrespect there I suppose.


    But he has a constitutional right. I forgot. A Muslim who wants to have a mosque and 20 odd floors of community facilities after paying for the building and being approved by the city deserve outrage. Terry Jones has a right. Muslims do not. They all want to kill us. Greensboro church has a right. Muslims do not. They all want to kill us.
    You don't seem to even know yourself how many floors this monstrosity is proposed to be. the 13 floor Mosque of Taquyya deserves outrage, not because of your strawman argument of rights, but because of the moral outrage of this supposed man of God spreading hurt, when he proposed to reach out. He and the left are liars.

    So Terry Jones wanted to burn Quarans. It's his right. It's just a book.
    Muslims can not have a mosque and pray. It is not thier right. It is not respectful. They want to kill us.
    Muslims burning bibles in the US? Also not thier right. Only white people can do that in the US.
    SICK.
    What is sick is how the uber left in this country has to lean on calling everyone racist at the drop of a hat, and misrepresent their opponents arguments disingenuously. No one is racist, that is your diversion, and no one wants to block this mans rights. Just that he be what he claims, and if he is, he will move it.


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