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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The more I read your writing, the more I'm convinced you see Christianity as the real threat to the "American way of life". I have no clue what pissed you off so bad to make you hate Christians so, but it truely makes me sad. You seem to fear Christians more than Muslims with respect to the security of the U.S.
    What in sam hell are you talking about?

    I'm showing what's called

    "hypocricy"

    But on that note.

    If an American is murdered... who is the most likely person to have murdered that American... A fellow American

    Have a nice day

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    And yet the best source you could come up with is Wikipedia?
    All you have to do is click the link to see where the original source material came from:
    Statements by Muslim groups condemning terrorism - Which ends up linking to about 4-5 different links on Muslims denouncing terrorism.
    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The REAL issue is when the many allow the few to define them by commission or omission, remain silent and do not police their own - well, they lose the right to bitch and moan
    WTF do you mean "by commission"? Second, remaining silent on something is not the equivalent of supporting it. Third, they do police their own and have way before 9/11. The people most affected by Islamists are mainly Muslims. Yemen and Saudi Arabia are fighting Al-Qaeda militants along their border. Same with Iraq and Afghanistan. Same with Pakistan. Same with Indonesia.

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    RoP, you are quite a spin doctor....you use rhetoric at its finiest...


    1. the Quran isn't some buffet where u just pic and chose verses that serve ur purpose and post them...dont make me start posting verses from teh Bible where God intices his prophets, Moses, davis, samson, etc) to kill (man, woman, and children)...

    2. Dont ever quote Khomeinin...he knows nothing of the religion.

    3. look into associations fallacy, afterall, i can post articles of christian militan groups in african, kililng homosexuals, raping women, and blowing up buildings... or maybe i should post teh evangelical christians here in teh US bombinb abortion clinics..

    4. Dont ever speak on behalf of Muslim....

    I suggest you read this article in your Army outfit: Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No.
    I'm a Moderate Muslim.

    They are not.
    Not my place to define you, but I would say these folks are far more moderate and mainstream and your positions are more accurately defined as 'progressive'. This is considered common and rather 'normal' behavior. To you? Absolutely not. But to them? You bet.

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Same with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Now that you mention it....This happens way too often, both in Iraq and Afghanistan

    Iraqi Soldier Fires on US Troops, Kills 2

    An Iraqi soldier fired a barrage of bullets at American troops protecting one of their commanders during a visit to an Iraqi army base Tuesday and killed two of them, the first U.S. servicemen to die since President Obama declared an end to combat operations in the country last week.

    Even after the U.S. dramatically reduced the number of troops and rebranded its mission in Iraq, the attack was a reminder that Americans still have to defend themselves in a dangerous country where Iraqi forces have only a tenuous hold on security. Nine Americans were wounded in Tuesday's shooting.
    In Tuesday's attack, however, the danger came from within, when U.S. troops were surrounded by the men they are supposed to be training to take over security for the country.

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Now that you mention it....This happens way too often, both in Iraq and Afghanistan

    Iraqi Soldier Fires on US Troops, Kills 2
    So after getting proven wrong that Muslim governments have been combating terrorists within their jurisdictions, you decide to post an irrelevant article relating to an Iraqi soldier firing upon American soldiers. All the while leaving this part out:

    The assailant opened fire after an argument and was killed in the shootout that followed, said the city's police chief, Col. Hussein Rashid. He did not provide details on the nature of the argument.
    I'm still waiting for what you meant "by commission".

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post


    Now come on...dont you pretty much HAVE to admit...these are 'moderate' Muslims???
    where do u get these petty videos? Moderation is the essence of the True teachings of Islam...a "radical" muslim or "liberal'' muslim is bida'a (innovation)...

    Follow the quran and the sunnah of the Prophet and you'll be practicining moderation in everything..

    now dont go and quote some verse that speaks of violence and draw ur own conclusions and interpretations mocking the religion

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    So after getting proven wrong that Muslim governments have been combating terrorists within their jurisdictions, you decide to post an irrelevant article relating to an Iraqi soldier firing upon American soldiers. All the while leaving this part out:
    Keep in mind: One Iraqi opening fire on US soldiers is a representative of the entire Muslim population and their hatred for freedom, whereas American soldiers who kill civilians and collect their fingers are simply isolated instances.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by GodsWrath View Post
    where do u get these petty videos? Moderation is the essence of the True teachings of Islam...a "radical" muslim or "liberal'' muslim is bida'a (innovation)...

    Follow the quran and the sunnah of the Prophet and you'll be practicining moderation in everything..

    now dont go and quote some verse that speaks of violence and draw ur own conclusions and interpretations mocking the religion
    Yes...these are the petty ones...not the graphic ones of the beheadings, the Islamists teaching their children to slaughter innocents...you know...the truly bloody and gory ones. These ones are of 'moderates'. And in these petty videos and many many others, educated intelligent modern men and women discuss men beating women in the name of Allah on a regular basis.

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    Re: Assailants stab, beat Christian worshippers outside of Indonesia's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Keep in mind: One Iraqi opening fire on US soldiers is a representative of the entire Muslim population and their hatred for freedom, whereas American soldiers who kill civilians and collect their fingers are simply isolated instances.
    The difference being of course that we arrest criminals and try them...as opposed to those extremist Muslim douchebags that dance and shout and praise Allah for the latest bloodletting.

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