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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Well thats what happens when you spend money like its ****ing water. Whether it be perpetual war or domestic out of control spending but in our case its both.
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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    So, what are your suggestions to fix it, minus the he said she said bs? Like you i don't agree this all GOP or DEM. But the current problem is both by their refusal to put their show boating aside.
    I don't think things are all that ****ed in the short term. We should maintain our current tax rates with a possible additional bracket in the 1-2 million range that's a few percentage points higher. I'm ambivalent about additional stimulus spending. What we need to do is fix our long term problems, which will require a serious reworking of SS/Medicare. We need to stop thinking that we can smoke a pack and eat 3,000 calories/day and then be entitled to tip top healthcare. We need to stop thinking we can ignore saving for retirement because SS will take care of things.

    None of this is really relevant to the point I was making, but you asked.
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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What's so surprising about this? I have been saying this for years now, ever since Clinton signed the Gramm-Bliley bill into law. It's coming, folks. How it ends is up to us. We can come out of this better than we were before, if we do the right things, and I believe we will. Here is how I believe it will play out:

    1) First, we will end up defaulting on our debt. There is no way to prevent this. We do NOT have the resources to be able to ever pay back our debt. Our crisis is going to become the world's crisis, but those who will suffer most, economically, will be the banksters, whose only wealth is on nothing but paper, which was created from all this debt, and not much else.

    Couldn't agree more, but this Keynesian approach was exactly the wrong thing to have done when this started. Sure there would have been pain, but far less than we keep building now by printing more money and buying our own debt.

    2) Heads are REALLY going to roll in Washington, and whoever replaces them will rebuild America's economic policies on sane foundations.
    Yep, it starts this Nov. start popping the pop corn.

    3) This might be an opportunity for some to attempt to create a new currency that will tie America's economic foundation to that of Canada and Mexico. There has been some talk about the Amero as a new currency. The good news is that this will never get off the ground, and will remain forever fodder for conspiracy theories.
    Liberals are already trying that, check "Carbon Credits" they sure have enriched Al Gore.

    4) Our new economic policy will once again call for a currency backed by something of value, as opposed to debt. Fiat currency, that is, currency with a value of whoever arbitrarily decides what it is going to be, will become history.
    Maybe it could be backed with coal, after all they are premature diamonds. And we have the most of it.

    I believe that we have a very rough road ahead of us, as our economy melts down. It is going to be very tough for some of us, but I truly believe that, once the proper steps are taken, we are going to come out of this better than we were before, and that the government of the people, by the people, and for the people, will once again become just that, instead of the tool for the banksters it became under our current economic policy.
    But, but, we are being fed now such definitive statements by the current administration as "Nearly all economists agree", and "All the economists say...." It's such BS.

    Heck, you even see it in here posted by staunch defenders of all this spending from Obama.

    Yes, there is bad news coming, but if we persevere, the good news down the road will far outweigh it. Don't listen to politicians and other professional liars, as they make their last stand, desperately spinning what is about to happen, while praying that the status quo will prevail. It won't. The writing is already on the wall, and their days in power are numbered. When the meltdown does happen, this WILL be change you can believe in. Our leaders will once more work for us, and not for just the select few who have them in their pockets, via the lobbies. When this is over, perhaps the lobbyists can find work at McDonald's, if the supervisors somehow have it in their hearts to overlook their treasonous acts, and give them a second chance. After all, the retarded are always given a chance in life. LOL.
    Well, I am hoping not, but this author of this piece seems to relish in doomsday writing. So, hey maybe, maybe not.

    Tell me Dana, what is "lobbying" and what is it meant for?

    Wiki defines it as:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Lobbying (also Lobby) is a form of advocacy with the intention of influencing decisions made by legislators and officials in the government by individuals, other legislators, constituents, or advocacy groups.

    Lobbying - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And the Constitution says:

    The ability of individuals, groups, and corporations to lobby the government is protected by the right to petition[2] in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.
    Hmmm...is one to conclude by your obvious disdain for Lobbying efforts, and Lobbying in general that you are for abolishing it? Destroying the 1st Amendment?

    We seem to see alot of that today.


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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    !!!!! I've saved this to my desktop for future use in my signature line. This has got to be the best line I've read yet. Thanks, Uncola!!
    If you think life without government is so great, you should jump on the next plane to Somalia, it'll be a paradise to you. True "libertatian" policies, hard at work.
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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    If you think life without government is so great, you should jump on the next plane to Somalia, it'll be a paradise to you. True "libertatiana' policies, hard at work.
    This shows you know nothing about Libertarian philosophy.
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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    If you think life without government is so great, you should jump on the next plane to Somalia, it'll be a paradise to you. True "libertatian" policies, hard at work.
    "If you think more government is so great, you should fire up the time machine and go back to 1970's Soviet Russia, it'll be a paradise to you."

    Sound dumb?
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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    3 posts in, and the stubborn stupidity that keeps the tug-o-war going kicks in. Far-right/ far-left need to be put out to pasture and let the pragmatic middle take over and run things for a while.

    Hard choices that the partisans protecting their jobs will never make. What got us here:

    *unfunded wars
    *for profit health care dictating terms of health care reform
    *banking/financial sector dictating terms of regulation
    *refusal to make hard choices on both taxes and spending
    Yeah, like you're middle. LOL. I'd bet you have a poster of Michael Moore above your cot.

    The middle is what got us into this mess. Wishy washy people who don't believe in anything but LOVE ATTENTION allow the Washington logjam to continue indefinitely.

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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    This shows you know nothing about Libertarian philosophy.
    Oh really? I keep hearing that from 'em, but when ya ask what it is they actually do stand for, all I get is negatives.

    So, please point me to one successful libertarian nation. I'll wait patiently.

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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    If you think life without government is so great, you should jump on the next plane to Somalia, it'll be a paradise to you. True "libertatian" policies, hard at work.
    Who said anything about life without government? Out-of-control government is the problem. Not government. I think what we've got here is a failure to communicate, Uncola. Regards the 545 people post, We've got 545 people totally, completely and absolutely out of CONTROL.

    In your hurry to label people, you miss the whole point.
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    Re: Doomsday warnings of US apocalypse gain ground

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Who said anything about life without government? Out-of-control government is the problem. Not government. I think what we've got here is a failure to communicate, Uncola. Regards the 545 people post, We've got 545 people totally, completely and absolutely out of CONTROL.

    In your hurry to label people, you miss the whole point.
    I must have missed where you offered up a solution. Sitting on the sidelines and throwing grenades is easy. But go right ahead and tell how having virtually every effort to work on this Nations pressing problems blocked by the minority party is a good thing. Voodoo Economics is a failure and we're now seeing the end game.

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