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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and right wing death squads that tend to win in many instances but even if there was a flat tax which would prevent people like obama from pandering to class envy (we will jack up their taxes not yours) the rich would still pay for more than they use and I doubt the proletarians would be revolting in the streets. to claim we should pay even more to keep the revolution from happening is silly

    the revolution is most likely to happen when the rich cannot or will not pay yet another tax increase designed to buy the votes of the many for the dems. then all those people who have voted for more and more government are going to be -as I noted in another post--like birds who have become dependent on a bird feeder one day finding the feeder empty in the coldest day of the year.
    Those death squads are an expense, along with the missed economic activities during the social strife that tend to lower the economic potential of the individuals funding the death squads and the country itself. A reasonable level of social programs keeps the poor from joining such revolutionary groups, while keeping the economy moving forward as well. A reasonable trade off, I would think. Stupid welfare programs of course are another story entirely
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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yeah. Well, guess what?

    The poor people manage to keep jobs only because the nation's social and economic structure has it's "stability" maintained by the government.

    The middle class can buy it's homes, it's cars, it's retirement funds, because the government maintains social and economic stability.

    Guess what the function of government is?


    It's to establish domestic tranquility. Read the Constitution, damn it.
    Domestic tranquility is exactly what I am talking about. The rich and the middle class are the primary benifits of it. The goal is to ensure enough people stay in the rich and middle class so that a change in the domestic order becomes a thing most people look foward to
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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think what motivates most of these tax hikers is either the mistaken belief that they will somehow be given some of the wealth taken from the rich or they are just envious of those who make more than them

    many libs on chat boards tend to be somewhat well educated but aren't the leaders of their party. they often think they are very intelligent but they cannot understand why the "corrupt market" or "evil corporations" don't value their obvious brilliance with hefty paychecks. so their reaction to this lack of success is to rage against those better off then they are.


    They miss the point that if it does not help the employment or recession then it will hurt us.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Domestic tranquility is exactly what I am talking about. The rich and the middle class are the primary benifits of it. The goal is to ensure enough people stay in the rich and middle class so that a change in the domestic order becomes a thing most people look foward to
    No.

    You're talking about stealing, which is the word we mere plebians use to describe taking money from people simply because you have the machine guns.

    Since you're mystified about that Constituiton thingy, here, let me help you:

    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

    The "More perfect union" refers to the fact that the Articles of Confederation were failing.

    The reference to establishing "justice" does not say "social justice". Social justice is a propaganda code-phrase used to rationalize the robbing of the wealthy by the mob. "Justice" alone refers to treating each man equally before the law, a concept that was embodied in the Declaration of Independence and needed re-iteration in the Fourteenth Amendment.

    "Domestic tranquility" is that stability thingy I've been discussing that the poor find so advantageous to their lives.

    "Provide for the common defence" means the Army and Navy. This is, after all, a document for a national government, not a lower level.

    "Promote the general welfare" naturally means the government can't PROVIDE the welfare. Since the government doesn't have any money, it can't provide anything without taking it from someone else, first, and it's perfectly clear that the Constitution does not allow entitlements and redistribution of stolen monies.

    "Secure the blessings of liberty" means that the people will not be yoked to the socialist scheme of mass slavery and equalized poverty.

    "to ourselves and our posterity" means we are obligated to our children to protect the nation against the infestation of socialists we now have.

    The United States is not a socialist nation, by the highest law in the land. You want socialism you need to move to Cuba.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    They miss the point that if it does not help the employment or recession then it will hurt us.
    They don't care about that. They're the roots jealous of the leaves, and they're trying to pull the tree down.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    They don't care about that. They're the roots jealous of the leaves, and they're trying to pull the tree down.
    Then like Obama they do not care about the country

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post

    Finally, something Democrats and Republicans can agree on.
    i saw this earlier, and while i am happy at his stance......he's said he thinks it's bad policy, and it won't do any good to let the tax increases expire for the wealthy. so, isn't this a typical politician's play for votes?

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Translation: Boehner is just another spineless conservative that cant stick to an issue. What a shock
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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Translation: Boehner is just another spineless conservative that cant stick to an issue. What a shock
    This attitude is the reason the GOP will end up destroying itself. They've painted the Democrats as the devil to the right wing. Now the right wing will not forgive any compromise with The Devil.
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