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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so why don't you-a big lover of sticking it to the rich tell us five benefits that will come from say allowing everyone but the top 2% or so to retain the Bush tax cuts
    How/when have I ever expresses a sticking it to the rich attitude?? -- I'm the one who walked you through how wealth is generated through a partnership between biz and gov. Remember?

    You keep trying to paint me as a 'Robin Hood' who wants to rob from the rich to pay the poor freeloaders, putting words in my mouth and only replying to my posts with the same moronic Hannity far-right talking points. Mr. Broken record.

    Write this down: People, both as workers and as investors, respond logically to the incentives that government sets for them.

    I'm leaning in favor of the 2-year across the board extension, but re: Obama's proposal - the middle & lower income earners are the consumers, the lower spends most of their income just to pay bills and feed their family. The upper income can take the hit and sill maintain a healthy investment portfolio.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what exactly do you consider to be 'equal protection'?
    In terms of taxes the definition of equal means either everyone pays the same dollar value tax, or eveyone pays the same percentage.

    I'm opposed to discrimination, lefties love it.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Cause. lowered taxes, and increased spending means a higher deficit, as the US savings rate was negative at the time the US government had to borrow from foreign investors, of who the Chinese made the biggest gains in holdings of US government debt during that time frame
    CAUSE: Spending outside constitutional limits means higher deficit when tax payers are adamant about not being robbed to pay the law breaking federal government that much money.

    SOLUTION: Reduce spending to Constitutional limits, replace Congressthings that voted for that spending.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Tax cuts have to either be accompanied by spending cuts or government borrowing to pay for government programs
    Tax cuts typically lead to increased federal revenues, so what's the problem?

    Oh, you're dealing out pieces of that static socialist pie that doesn't recognize that economies can grow when people aren't being robbed of their means to create.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you have nothing on how increasing taxes will create jobs. Here is a hint, If companies pay more taxes there is less for expansion and hiring new employees. Many will not hire because of the fear of the cost of the new Obama care bill
    I think what motivates most of these tax hikers is either the mistaken belief that they will somehow be given some of the wealth taken from the rich or they are just envious of those who make more than them

    many libs on chat boards tend to be somewhat well educated but aren't the leaders of their party. they often think they are very intelligent but they cannot understand why the "corrupt market" or "evil corporations" don't value their obvious brilliance with hefty paychecks. so their reaction to this lack of success is to rage against those better off then they are.



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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The first personal income tax was imposed during the civil war... 3% for all incomes over $800.

    So much for a top school with honors and a JD...
    The courts ruled that bit of thievery unconstitutional.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    How/when have I ever expresses a sticking it to the rich attitude?? -- I'm the one who walked you through how wealth is generated through a partnership between biz and gov. Remember?

    You keep trying to paint me as a 'Robin Hood' who wants to rob from the rich to pay the poor freeloaders, putting words in my mouth and only replying to my posts with the same moronic Hannity far-right talking points. Mr. Broken record.

    Write this down: People, both as workers and as investors, respond logically to the incentives that government sets for them.

    I'm leaning in favor of the 2-year across the board extension, but re: Obama's proposal - the middle & lower income earners are the consumers, the lower spends most of their income just to pay bills and feed their family. The upper income can take the hit and sill maintain a healthy investment portfolio.
    a fancy way of being an advocate of class warfare-stick it to the rich, anyone making over 200K can afford it

    I wish I was smart enough to know what a couple million people need in terms of after tax income.



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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Tax cuts typically lead to increased federal revenues, so what's the problem?

    Oh, you're dealing out pieces of that static socialist pie that doesn't recognize that economies can grow when people aren't being robbed of their means to create.
    If that is the case lower taxes to zero and federal revenues will skyrocket

    the fact is a growing economy will increase tax revenues. Reagan increased taxes and revenue increased, he decreased taxes and revenue increased. Clinton increased taxes and both the economy and revenue grew
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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    How/when have I ever expresses a sticking it to the rich attitude?? -- I'm the one who walked you through how wealth is generated through a partnership between biz and gov. Remember?

    You keep trying to paint me as a 'Robin Hood' who wants to rob from the rich to pay the poor freeloaders, putting words in my mouth and only replying to my posts with the same moronic Hannity far-right talking points. Mr. Broken record.

    Write this down: People, both as workers and as investors, respond logically to the incentives that government sets for them.

    I'm leaning in favor of the 2-year across the board extension, but re: Obama's proposal - the middle & lower income earners are the consumers, the lower spends most of their income just to pay bills and feed their family. The upper income can take the hit and sill maintain a healthy investment portfolio.
    What the last stimulus tax breaks have found is not that the lower income people are spending the tax breaks as much as expected. That is why the velocity of the stimules is less than had been anticipated. Lower income people have been doing a better job of being responsible and have taken down their debt with a bunch of the tax money. Good for them. good for banks, not good for the economy. Upper income people which make up a large part of consumer spending, will mostly do one of two things. Spend or invest. This economy needs more of both.

    We should all be tired of the us versus them mentality of this white house. If we can't afford to reverse the increase in taxes because the deficit is too high then we as a country should contribute. If the arguement is that the economy can't stand it right now then let all of the cuts continue.

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    Re: John Boehner speaks of tax compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think what motivates most of these tax hikers is either the mistaken belief that they will somehow be given some of the wealth taken from the rich or they are just envious of those who make more than them.
    Mostly it's the latter.

    I'm envious of someone pulling in a half-million a year. But I want to be able to make that kind of money. The left feels that since they didn't earn it, it should be stolen to make things "equal" somehow.

    That the socialist programs always fail to improve anyone's life isn't as important to them as the fact that "the rich" have been robbed.

    The lower class people duped by the socialist promises of something for nothing of course expect more handouts. Look at those dumb people expecting Obama to buy their houses for them after their messiah was elected. Look at those dumb people demanding yet another "stimulus". They're all goonion folk waiting for the socialist gravy train to stop at their doorstep.

    The one thing they have in common is total disdain for the American ideals of independence, self-reliance, hard work, self-respect, honesty and integrity.

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