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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    I hate to break it to some and yet rejoice in being vindicated in many of my previous posts that this is part of Obama's plan. He is hell bent on the down fall of this Nation he and his wife seem to hate and have demonstrated as much in speeches and in deeds.

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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Your wrong when President Obama took over job losses started to go down;

    you're in trouble, dude

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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    If you keep looking in the rear view mirror eventually you get into a wreck.
    Those people who have lung cancer can look back when they smoked like a chimney,which is good metaphor for what we have today.


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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
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    Change... you can believe in.

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    Do you have any concept of what is happening, why it's happening, and how long it will take to undue what W. did?

    Any at all?

    The talking points from the partisan right perpetuate this microwave-dinner, high-speed internet mentality.

    The events of 2008 were 8-10 years in the making. Pulling out of it could take as long or longer.

    In case you forgot, the stock market crashed in 1929, then there was a brief upturn in 1930 and we finally bottomed out in the winter of 1932.

    We're not out of the woods yet and I haven't heard a comprehensive workable plan from the GOP -- just a lot of "we'd promote job creation and investment..." BFG.

    According to Reps, everything the Dems are doing is wrong, but the reasons aren't exactly clear -- just broad brush 'socialism' talking point nonsense.

    They seem more concerned with gaining back political power than actually helping.

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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Do you have any concept of what is happening, why it's happening, and how long it will take to undue what W. did?
    Why stop with W?

    Why don't we go further down the road towards, the "entitlement" concept? First introduced by socialism, i.e. Karl Marx, communism, and most significantly for us, FDR and "The New Deal", followed by Lyndon Johnson.

    Johnson and the Dems figured out intelligently that they could buy the "lower class" votes with handouts financed by taxes from the "rich". Deceptive bull**** at its heart since businesses and people who make money as owners of business, simply pass on taxes as a part of doing business. That raises the cost of goods so the "poor", who allegedly benefited by getting stuff paid for by the "rich", end up paying the tax through the back door (their back door) via higher prices.
    Last edited by ric27; 09-12-10 at 12:29 AM.

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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The job losses bottomed out. It's not because of anything that goofball did.
    which goofball, Bush or Obama?
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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Do you have any concept of what is happening, why it's happening, and how long it will take to undue what W. did?

    Any at all?

    The talking points from the partisan right perpetuate this microwave-dinner, high-speed internet mentality.

    The events of 2008 were 8-10 years in the making. Pulling out of it could take as long or longer.

    In case you forgot, the stock market crashed in 1929, then there was a brief upturn in 1930 and we finally bottomed out in the winter of 1932.

    We're not out of the woods yet and I haven't heard a comprehensive workable plan from the GOP -- just a lot of "we'd promote job creation and investment..." BFG.

    According to Reps, everything the Dems are doing is wrong, but the reasons aren't exactly clear -- just broad brush 'socialism' talking point nonsense.

    They seem more concerned with gaining back political power than actually helping.
    exactly, the GOP is off track. They want to put down every effort or idea that doesn't originate within their ranks, and even some that did originate with them, once Obama starts using their ideas. They haven't got a viable candidate to run in 2012, so what else can they do but obstruct?
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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Why stop with W?
    Fair enough. The powerful men telling W. what to do & dickie.

    But W. did start thinking for himself by the 2nd term. But the wheels were already in motion.

    Why don't we go further down the road towards, the "entitlement" concept? First introduced by socialism, i.e. Karl Marx, communism, and most significantly for us, FDR and "The New Deal", followed by Lyndon Johnson.
    Oops, I thought you were a reasonable, intelligent person. Just another brainwashed far-rightie who attended Becks U.S. History re-do class.

    Johnson and the Dems figured out intelligently that they could buy the "lower class" votes with handouts financed by taxes from the "rich". Deceptive bull**** at its heart since businesses and people who make money as owners of business, simply pass on taxes as a part of doing business. That raises the cost of goods so the "poor", who allegedly benefited by getting stuff paid for by the "rich", end up paying the tax through the back door (their back door) via higher prices.
    I already flushed that argument down the crapper when turtle made it.

    I'll go slow... People..don't..vote..along..class..or..tax..bracke t..lines..there.. are..plenty..of...poor..white..GOP..Voters...

    So, your moronic point about Dems tricking poor people is crap.
    Last edited by hazlnut; 09-12-10 at 12:57 AM.

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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    exactly, the GOP is off track. They want to put down every effort or idea that doesn't originate within their ranks, and even some that did originate with them, once Obama starts using their ideas. They haven't got a viable candidate to run in 2012, so what else can they do but obstruct?
    If they were able to obstruct that economy killing HC bill wouldn't have passed. I'm tired of the reps being called obstructionists when the dems didn't need them to pass anything. All they can do is say hell no to bad policies.
    I'm proud of them for the most part. They are listening to the people, unlike the elite "we know what's best" congress we have now.
    Dems don't have a viable candidate for 2012. We have several and who knows who else may show up for the party. 2012 is a long way off. Nov is right around the corner and the left is going to get it's butt kicked for the mess it's made of the economy and the policies it has put in place. AND for the way they have treated the people.
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    Re: US poverty on track to post record gain in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
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    Change... you can believe in.

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    Cluster<Insert F word here>s like this don't happen overnight. Now I do blame Obama for not doing enough, and doing the wrong things, but this started more than a decade ago, when Clinton was in office. I know people have heard this from me so many times that they want to puke, but I will say it again. The repeal of Glass-Steagal protections is the primary cause of all this. Clinton signed the bill, and started the process. The bubble grew, and made the economy look hot during the Bush administration, so he left well enough alone, and did nothing about it. Then the bubble burst, just before Bush left office. Now Obama fiddles while Rome burns.

    It takes two to tango, and both parties have spent years dancing together, and do it quite well. They have danced our economy off of the proverbial cliff. If either side wants to be honest, they need to acknowledge this fact. This is not the Bush Recession, nor is it the Bush-Obama recession. This is the Politician recession. If there ever was a time to kick each and every politician you see, Democratic or Republican, right in the gonads, this is the time to do it. They have certainly earned it. It is high time to kick out ALL the bums and start over. The letter after their names shouldn't matter, not to those who really give a damn.
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