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    U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    The Obama administration is changing the federal immigration enforcement strategy in ways that reduce the threat of deportation for millions of illegal immigrants, even as states such as Arizona, Colorado, Virginia, Ohio and Texas are pushing to accelerate deportations.
    The changes focus enforcement on immigrants who have committed serious crimes, an effort to unclog immigration courts and detention centers. A record backlog of deportation cases has forced immigrants to wait an average 459 days for their hearings, according to an Aug. 12 report by Syracuse University's Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC), which analyzes government data.
    Among the recent changes:

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton ordered agency officials on Aug. 20 to begin dismissing deportation cases against people who haven't committed serious crimes and have credible immigration applications pending.

    A proposed directive from Morton posted on ICE's website for public comment last month would generally prohibit police from using misdemeanor traffic stops to send people to ICE. Traffic stops have led to increased deportations in recent years, according to Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank whose research supports tighter enforcement.

    The directive said exceptions would be made in certain cases, such as when immigrants have serious criminal records.

    U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants - USATODAY.com


    Now while actual deports are up, releases are up too. The fact ICE lets even one illegal go is a disgrace.
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants - USATODAY.com

    Now while actual deports are up, releases are up too. The fact ICE lets even one illegal go is a disgrace.
    We're doing THAT when we should be doing THIS:

    Wal-Mart Pays Record Immigration Fine
    Author: Robert Banta
    Organization: Banta Immigration Law
    Newsletter: Employment and Labor Update - April 2005
    Wal-Mart's recent $11 million civil fine for alleged immigration violations is the largest ever paid by Corporate America. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials also announced that subcontractors providing the floor cleaning crews in question to Wal-Mart plead guilty to criminal immigration charges and will pay a total of $4 million in fines.
    Seems to me GW tried to get it right.
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We're doing THAT when we should be doing THIS:



    Seems to me GW tried to get it right.
    LOL 11 million in fines.. from Walmart? HAHAHAHAHHA.. it should have been 25% of its turnover, then they might have learned their lesson... 11 million is like a few hours of profit for them pft. So no, GW got it wrong, yet again.
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL 11 million in fines.. from Walmart? HAHAHAHAHHA.. it should have been 25% of its turnover, then they might have learned their lesson... 11 million is like a few hours of profit for them pft. So no, GW got it wrong, yet again.
    To WalMart it is a drop in the bucket. However, it was the largest fine in history ever levied against a company for hiring/contracting with illegal immigrants. Along with the fine came attorneys' fees and bad publicity. My post was my opinion of the approach the Obama White House is taking on immigration. That you used it as an opportunity to Bush Bash embarrasses you. Link for the largest fine levied during Obama's tenure, please?

    Oh, wait. That'd be here, the total levied on 24 companies:

    Highest Ever Immigration Fine Levied on Texas Companies!
    Many companies in Texas were found to be hiring undocumented migrants and have been fined a sum of more than $600000 from the last October. Here, it might have been that these firms were not able to keep up with the rules and regulations pertaining to immigration. Off these, some of them led to criminal prosecutions as per the Federal Records.
    http://blog.abhinav.com/highest-ever...xas-companies/

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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Link for the largest fine levied during Obama's tenure, please?
    I believe it was about $50 Million.
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    To WalMart it is a drop in the bucket. However, it was the largest fine in history ever levied against a company for hiring/contracting with illegal immigrants. Along with the fine came attorneys' fees and bad publicity. My post was my opinion of the approach the Obama White House is taking on immigration. That you used it as an opportunity to Bush Bash embarrasses you. Link for the largest fine levied during Obama's tenure, please?

    Oh, wait. That'd be here, the total levied on 24 companies:


    Highest Ever Immigration Fine Levied on Texas Companies!

    Take your bragging rights and go home.
    I never said Obama did any better, I just pointed out the idiotic nature of saying GW did something good when it was in no way enough and no different that what is happening now in many ways. 11 million is peanuts.. they earned as much in the time we have been debating this for god sake. It should have been 1.1 billion then we could talk about a fitting fine.

    My opinion has always been to hit the people who want to hire illegals with huge fines and consequences so that the cost of doing so is too high and hence they would stop it. Walmart probably made a ton of money with what they did.
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I believe it was about $50 Million.
    While I was all set to post: "GDIT!!!!! Hate it when I'm wrong." I won't be doing that. Just because I left out the word "immigration" doesn't cost me points. ;-)
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I never said Obama did any better, I just pointed out the idiotic nature of saying GW did something good when it was in no way enough and no different that what is happening now in many ways. 11 million is peanuts.. they earned as much in the time we have been debating this for god sake. It should have been 1.1 billion then we could talk about a fitting fine.

    My opinion has always been to hit the people who want to hire illegals with huge fines and consequences so that the cost of doing so is too high and hence they would stop it. Walmart probably made a ton of money with what they did.
    You and I agree, then. The approach to stopping illegal immigration is to penalize the companies who hire them. Obama's approach seems to be a different one. I like GW's much better regardless.
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    While I was all set to post: "GDIT!!!!! Hate it when I'm wrong." I won't be doing that. Just because I left out the word "immigration" doesn't cost me points. ;-)
    Ah, I see, I posted that before you added the immigration bit, match point to you.
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    Re: U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants

    So far I don't remember the last Person in the White House who was doing the right thing with ILLEGAL ALIENS going back to ReaganCarter and farther back.

    I just want everyone to enforce the damn laws you they took and oath to enforce or be removed from any office for not obeying the laws.

    II would go further and say that I want Mayors and City Councilpersons given 30 days to obey the laws and shut down Sanctuary Cities and enforce the laws or face 2 years in Federal Prison.

    I am sick to death of all this PC BS and one of those is calling Illegal Aliens Immigrants.

    We need to take our Country back before the Illegals out number us in places like California, damn it all.

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