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Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

Next step, legalizing Gay marriage. Doesn't seem to far away at all, hopefully this is the last frontier for civil rights. It's kind of pathetic that we are in the 21st century but yet treat gays as if they were 2nd tier citizens, have we not learned?
 
Well, pukes anyway. Plenty pukes are greatful. And it's civilian control over the military that has screwed everything up since WWII. Congratulations.
This is perfect example of why, every once in a while, it is necessary to shoot an admiral.
 
How dare this activist judge does what 75% of the country wants! How dare she stand up for free speech! This is an atrocity and will have severe repercussions! It will be massive sodomy throughout the ranks!

Link to studies?

I love it.

He throws out a number.... then when someone else does.... he demands links to studies..... LOL....
 
Ah, right. Us versus them. Civilians are ungrateful pukes, etc.

You've just demonstrated one reason we have civilian control over the military.

I think it's a natural consequence of the following sequence of events:
  • Being taught that voluntarily sacrificing for the greater good is one's duty
  • Volunteering to make that sacrifice
  • Feeling proud of yourself, on account of the fact that not everybody feels its their duty to make this sacrifice
  • Finding out, in no uncertain terms, that there are people out there who aren't going to appreciate your sacrifice the same way you yourself do, simply on account of the fact that it was made voluntarily, and that not everybody agrees with the making of that sacrifice
  • Continuing to make that sacrifice because you've obligated yourself, doing so in the knowledge that your sacrifice isn't appreciated the way you think it should be
There's a whole other group of people who run into this same problem (I'm one of them), and ultimately those of us who survive the test of time do so by taking the joys where we can find them and shrugging off the frustrations as best we can.

I call those people "parents." :lol:
 
I believe I'd pay to see that.

Only thing that would be better is if they had Paris Hilton-esque chihuahuas to use for interrogations.

maybe dress a few lesbians up as miss Piggy armed with pork fat greased "toys"
 
I rest my case.

I would imagine a nearby shrink would be able to help a person with grandiose delusions such as these.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I am willing to bet that you have no idea what I'm talking about at all. Absolutely no sense about what has occurred since WWII, but full of a personal notion that your ignorant ideas of things matter some how. In your little unfocused world you think you have things figured out beyond your tiny little perimeter of work and home. It's your kind that sit in Washington and make decisions only to learn the same old lessons others before them have already learned. It starts with education. But before that, I'm sure you are full of opinions.
 
I love it.

He throws out a number.... then when someone else does.... he demands links to studies..... LOL....

His claim does look to at least be defensible though: Poll: 78 percent favor repealing 'Don't ask, don't tell' - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

More than three-fourths of Americans favor repealing "Don't ask, don't tell," according to a new CNN poll.

A full 78 percent of respondents said that "people who are openly gay or homosexual" should be able to serve in the armed forces. The results are similar to what CNN found in December of 2008 (81 percent) and May of 2007 (79 percent).

I have not heard about anything more than a couple people claiming that re-enlistment could suffer under DADT.
 
So, the DoD should do away with the regulation that prohibits adultry, too?

These regulations are in place a reason, not just to be mean to certain people. You do understand that. Yes?

Lets be honest... that regulation is rarely if ever enforced.......
 
This is perfect example of why, every once in a while, it is necessary to shoot an admiral.

What the ****?

No really, what in the hell are you trying to say here?
 
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I am willing to bet that you have no idea what I'm talking about at all. Absolutely no sense about what has occurred since WWII, but full of a personal notion that your ignorant ideas of things matter some how. In your little unfocused world you think you have things figured out beyond your tiny little perimeter of work and home. It's your kind that sit in Washington and make decisions only to learn the same old lessons others before them have already learned. It starts with education. But before that, I'm sure you are full of opinions.
Yeah, that's it. If only we were all as omniscient as you. :roll:

Please show me just how professional you are and keep it up with the ad hominem. It amuses me.
 
DADT is a stupid policy put forth by Clinton who was caught between two people he didn't want to piss off

One of hillary's demands was to open the military to gays while General Powell was against it so we got this stupid silly policy

what is a joke is that the women in the armed forces probably have as large a percentage of lesbians as say the LPGA and its obvious. A friend of mine is an open lesbian and any guy with an ounce of testosterone can figure out she's gay within 5 seconds of meeting her and she's done two tours in Iraq USA enigneering battalion NCO

probably no one asked because the answer was obvious.
 
And where have I stated that I like being abused?

In this thread. Not in those words, but your griping can easily be read that way.

You like how they are running this country down? This is your kind. Not mine.

Way to paint with a broad brush, what with all the times I've shaken my fist at the government on this very forum! :lol:

Most Americans don't deserve what they have. They were merely born lucky and live their lives celebrating their ignorance and stupidity.

Who gets to make that evaluation, mmm? If that kind of sentiment came out of the mouth of a "liberal" directed at the well-to-do, I think you'd find that either laughable, offensive to all values American, or both.
 
Lets be honest... that regulation is rarely if ever enforced.......

It could be handled by "conduct unbecoming" too. Usually if you get adultery, you get conduct unbecoming anyway.
 
I think it's a natural consequence of the following sequence of events:
  • Being taught that voluntarily sacrificing for the greater good is one's duty
  • Volunteering to make that sacrifice
  • Feeling proud of yourself, on account of the fact that not everybody feels its their duty to make this sacrifice
  • Finding out, in no uncertain terms, that there are people out there who aren't going to appreciate your sacrifice the same way you yourself do, simply on account of the fact that it was made voluntarily, and that not everybody agrees with the making of that sacrifice
  • Continuing to make that sacrifice because you've obligated yourself, doing so in the knowledge that your sacrifice isn't appreciated the way you think it should be
There's a whole other group of people who run into this same problem (I'm one of them), and ultimately those of us who survive the test of time do so by taking the joys where we can find them and shrugging off the frustrations as best we can.

I call those people "parents." :lol:

You were "one of them" because you were weak. In the end, it's about expecting better from those who make the decisions to spill your blood. And when they don't and an entire civilization decides that basing opinions on lazy interpretations of what a reporter or politician tells them is more important than actual learning, it becomes dissapointing.
 
Yeah, that's it. If only we were all as omniscient as you. :roll:

Please show me just how professional you are and keep it up with the ad hominem. It amuses me.

And you dissapoint me. But you're merely representation.
 
What the ****?

No really, what in the hell are you trying to say here?
Every once in a while, you kill an uppity general to keep the military in check, and show them who's boss.

They're the expendable meat, and they're the tools to be used as we see fit. They work to create our image our society here and abroad, not the other way around.

MS needs to learn his place as a cog in the machine, and stop having silly ideas of his own.
 
And you dissapoint me. But you're merely representation.
Could you come on down off your cross long enough to explain that one? Us civilians usually require complete thoughts.
 
So toss me a link then.

Whats the point?

I read about it when I was deployed in the PHYSICAL COPY (ie. paper) in Iraq in 2003.......
Im not going to go searching for a possible link to a 7 year old story just so you can whine that its a 7 year old story..

Go do it yourself.
 
Every once in a while, you kill an uppity general to keep the military in check, and show them who's boss.

They're the expendable meat, and they're the tools to be used as we see fit. They work to create our image our society here and abroad, not the other way around.

MS needs to learn his place as a cog in the machine, and stop having silly ideas of his own.

I remember during the first Iraq conflict(Desert Shield/Desert Storm), Doonsebury went from being that comic only weird liberals read, to one of the favs of those in the military. One strip in particular got hug up on every military base, where one of the strip characters(senator Lacy Davenport) talks to a college grad about Iraq. She asked him if he felt he should serve, and his response was "I don't think the battlefield is the right place for our best and brightest", to which Senator Davenport replied "and yet there they are".

Your post reminded me of that, with your complete disconnect with what the military and people in the military are. Not only do those in the military have ideas, it's a damn good thing they do. It's because they have "ideas" that you can say stupid **** like your post.
 
Whats the point?

I read about it when I was deployed in the PHYSICAL COPY (ie. paper) in Iraq in 2003.......
Im not going to go searching for a possible link to a 7 year old story just so you can whine that its a 7 year old story..

Go do it yourself.

So it's not current, and not confirmable, and therefore not of any value.
 
In this thread. Not in those words, but your griping can easily be read that way.

Oh, not in those words. How enlightening. Maybe this is why the unlearned manage to think their opinions matter.

Way to paint with a broad brush, what with all the times I've shaken my fist at the government on this very forum! :lol:

Shake away. In the end, uniforms don't run this country. Suits do. Coronado seems to think civilians haven't screwed up military activities forthe last 65 years. With the same civilians screwing up this country we can't seem to grasp that it has done the same towards a military they control? This country needs more military in Washington and less civilians.

Who gets to make that evaluation, mmm? If that kind of sentiment came out of the mouth of a "liberal" directed at the well-to-do, I think you'd find that either laughable, offensive to all values American, or both.

It doesn't matter who's mouth it comes out of. It's truth and only partisan sheep would seek to designate it. Many people aren't born in this country. Those that are are born here merely inherit their rights. They haven't earned it. It's like being born into a monarchy.
 
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