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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    So your saying the majority of gay men can't control themselves, or don't understand that the majority of people he would be working with aren't gay?
    No, I'm not saying that. You'r putting words into my mouth.

    What I am saying, is that gays are no different than straights. If straights can do stupid ****, gays will do stupid **** at the same rate. Which will equate to higher rate of stupid ****.

    Seriously, it's not like their going to be treating their service in the military like an outing at their local gay bar.
    Some will. Just like their straight male soliders, who purposefully enlist in mostly female MOS's, so they can go scout pussy.

    If they can't follow the fraternization rule they should be punished. But why should gay people, or straight women for that matter, that follow the rules be punished for being who they are?
    I don't think anyone is being punished for being who they are. Gays join the military, fully aware of DADT. It is a regulation and I'm not going to shed any tears for them, if they get busted violating the regulations.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    nope! Never said that. When I was with 1/8CAV, 2nd BGD, 1st CAV at Ft. Hood, the commander of our support battalion got busted in the parking lot of the PX, getting his dick sucked by a female SPC4. He was married, she was married, they both fried. They were both burned with two counts from Article 134 and one count from Article 125, which is exaclty what should have happened.
    Sure, as would be expected. Would that or worse happen if it was two males? Why would there be any difference? So, why should the law be different?

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You guys aren't seeing the big picture. Getting a blow job - at ANY time - is detrimental to the safety of the soldiers everywhere. And unit cohesion. And stuffs. A tongue touching a dick will cause soldiers and puppies to die. Why do you hate the soldiers so much?
    What if two soldiers are on a LP/OP--listening post/observation post--and they are playing around, rather than listening and observing. Then, yes, soldiers's lives are in jeopardy. That's no different than falling asleep on gaurd duty.

    In that case, not only would those soldiers being violating the UCMJ, they would be directly disobeying their 1st General Order, another court martial offense.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    So, if they get rid of DADT, then its all okay? As long as they adhere to the UCMJ they are okay? If they violate it, they are just like any straight soldier who voilates it? I think what most dont seem to get is that gays have ALWAYS been serving in the military. There were gay soldiers in the continental army..there were gays in WW I, WW ll, and every war since then and before. We have not disintegrated from it yet. Why, do you think it will be any different from now on?
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

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    I will take a closer look, Oscar. Got one in a speedo? ;-)
    closest I've got, sorry about the groin protector obscuring the view.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by opinion8tdwench View Post
    Ap, I think that is almost apples and oranges. That is not just a case of 2 folks having a quick romp in the back seat of a car. You are dealing with a superior officer and a non-com. Had they both been SPC4, they might have been in a little bit of trouble just on a public indecency charge, but probably not much beyond administrative punishment would have happened.
    My point is, that in an infantry unit, that problem doesn't exist, among the ranks. Why? Because there are no females in infantry units.

    Personally, I don't think there sould be ANY co-ed units in the Army. They should be male, or female.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    So... has anyone looked at the actual court decision, or have any desire to talk about it?

    I skipped a couple of pages, but it doesn't seem like it.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by opinion8tdwench View Post
    So, if they get rid of DADT, then its all okay? As long as they adhere to the UCMJ they are okay? If they violate it, they are just like any straight soldier who voilates it? I think what most dont seem to get is that gays have ALWAYS been serving in the military. There were gay soldiers in the continental army..there were gays in WW I, WW ll, and every war since then and before. We have not disintegrated from it yet. Why, do you think it will be any different from now on?
    If they get rid of DADT, then we get into the issue of seperate billets, because there are going to be straight soldiers who refuse to billet with gay soldiers and vice-versa.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    So... has anyone looked at the actual court decision, or have any desire to talk about it?

    I skipped a couple of pages, but it doesn't seem like it.
    I talked about: the 9th Circus doesn't have jurisdiction over military regulations.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    LMAO. Very nice Oscar..But I think, with a little effort, I Could resist the urge.
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